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Old 04-17-2020, 10:29 AM   #1
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Help! Power

Hello,

We have a 1985 sunline Saturn 17ft.
This is my wife’s and I first travel trailer. The previous owner did not know much about it and now that we have it, we are struggling to figure out the power.

I know there are two systems. 1 off an outlet and 1 battery powered. I cannot figure out how to get either system working. At the moment I am working on the battery power as we don’t have a 30amp outlet to work with. Any and all help explaining any of the systems would be very helpful. Thanks!!
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Hi DrJai,

First off, welcome to the club and congrats on your new Sunny!

Some of the older campers may have been modified from what was in it originally by prior owners. If you can post pictures of your electrical system and any name tags on the power system components, we can try and help better. We can then see exactly what you have and give better help to what you are seeing.

The basics of the camper electrical system are this. There are sort of 3 sets of systems/wiring.

1. 12 Volts DC DOT system. This the wiring system that is powered by the tow vehicle to run the brake lights, the turn signals and clearance lights and the trailer electric brake system. The truck 7 wire plug which is what you should have, sends truck power to run all these DOT lights. The truck also should have a battery charge line in that 7 wire cable to charge the camper battery when you are towing. That is, if the prior owner has it still all hooked up and the fuse is not blown.

2. The camper 12 VDC power system that is fed from the camper 12 volt battery on the trailer tongue. This power system runs the camper inside and outside lights (that are not part of the DOT lighting system), the water pump, the furnace fan, a radio if yours has one and some other 12 VDC items in the camper pending what you have in your 85 camper. The camper was built with this 12 volt system to run most things in the camper when you have no shore power to plug into.

3. The 120 volt AC system. There should be a few normal home looking wall outlets in your camper. And there should be a long shore line cable that could have a 30 amp special RV plug on the end of the cord. If you have a roof AC unit, the compressor and fans runs off of the 120 VAC. There should also be what we call a power converter. This unit takes 120 VAC and create 12 volt DC to both charge the camper battery and to create 12 VDC to run the 120 volt items in your camper. This converter and the other 120 VAC items will only work when you are plugged into shore power.

You mentioned you did not have a 30 amp outlet to plug the camper in. At home this can be common with folks just starting out do not have one. To get around this, you can buy an adapter that will convert that 30 amp plug to a normal looking 15 amp wall outlet plug in your home. They look like this
https://www.amazon.com/Camco-PowerGr...xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ==

There are many brands, Walmart sells them or any RV dealer. You cannot get all 30 amps power with that, only the 15 amps that the house outlet is sending, but it will power up the onboard power converter, charge your battery and you can use all the 12 VDC items and any 120 VAC wall outlets.

Your actual power converter and fuse panel, you need to find this unit and take pics of it and post. If you look in the area inside the camper where the 30 amp shoreline cord enters the camper, the power converter normally is close by inside. It may be in a bottom cabinet or by itself. Show us, tell us what brand and model this is and we can help better explain it. Over years Sunline often changed the brand and model of the power converter as technology kept evolving constantly on this front. And often, the old power converter stops working and is replaced by a prior owner and then we have no idea what they put in, but we can figure it out most times by the pics.

If you need help posting pics, just ask away!

Hope this helps and have fun with the new camper.

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Thanks for the reply!

We are awaiting in the mail the convert to connect to house power. Yay quarantine.

The previous owner switched from a 7 pin to a 4 pin as his truck didn’t have 7 pin. Our Jeep Wrangler connects to the 4 pin. I want to switch this back to the 7 pin.

Here are some pictures..

Thanks again!
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I'll assume you mean adapter so you can plug the big camper plug into the house? The camper was wired as a 7 pin so will have to find the old or cut wiring to return it to 7 pin and a 7 pin plug.
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The 7 pin is something that should be a priority, with the 4 wire system you have no trailer brakes loaded you could be over 3,000 pounds that could be a hand full to stop.
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If you haven’t found or purchased the 15 amp to 30 amp adapter, Walmart sells the for $6.88. I just purchased one today to test the electric throughout the 1976 Sunline I just purchased and it works like a charm!!!IMG_2341.jpg
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Thank you for all the responses. We have figured almost everything out with yalls help!
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If your Jeep is only a 4 pin it too will need some wiring and a brake controller. Generally a vehicle with a tow package came with a 7 pin the others did not.
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Thank you for all the responses. We have figured almost everything out with yalls help!

I have a 1976 Sunline. Here is the original wiring diagram for it. It may help you a bitIMG_2347.jpg
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I have a 1976 Sunline. Here is the original wiring diagram for it. It may help you a bitAttachment 7087
Thank you for that diagram! That has helped a lot. Unfortunately, the previous owners did rig some things and removed some things so it’s still a bit murky but that absolutely made a bunch clear!

One thing I am still at a loss.. any one know what this switch is?

It looks like it was at one point wired to the power converter (White and black) and then two very small wires going into the wall (white and red).
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It looks like the converter/ Battery switch
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Thank you for that diagram! That has helped a lot. Unfortunately, the previous owners did rig some things and removed some things so it’s still a bit murky but that absolutely made a bunch clear!

One thing I am still at a loss.. any one know what this switch is?

It looks like it was at one point wired to the power converter (White and black) and then two very small wires going into the wall (white and red).
That toggle switch is for sure, something a prior owner added. There is no good way to know what it is for by just looking at that one picture.

If you can post more pictures of the back of that area showing the wires and where they head too will help. That is, as long as you feel comfortable with electricity to peak behind that panel. Make sure the power is off.

And see if you can figure out where in the wall the wires go to.
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That's just a small switch that won't carry much current and yes it definitely is an owner install. White and red internal wiring is usually for a furnace so if they are tiny wires that might be a hint why it is there who knows.
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