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Old 07-30-2014, 03:17 PM   #1
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I have an appointment to get my struts replaced on my Explorer next week and am also getting the springs on my T-1350 redone.
Redone could mean one of two things. Either a new set or an added, replaced leaf.

When the trailer is hooked up to my Explorer the back end seems very low. I already have a drop-down draw-bar on my hitch. Also when I pull out of my driveway and onto the street the trailer hits bottom on the sidewalk. My trailer has those skid thingys at the back.
This work is being done at an actual spring shop. They do tractor trailers as well as cars and pickup trucks etc. and have been in business for years. They did a great job on our box trailer a few years ago.

Has anyone had experience between replacing both sets of springs and just adding a leaf?
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I think my question should be. Is it best to get replacement springs or is adding a leaf on each side "good enough"?
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I think my question should be. Is it best to get replacement springs or is adding a leaf on each side "good enough"?
I'd replace if it were me.
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What about an axle flip for the dragging issue and getting height?
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I kind of thought about that but then I'd still be dealing with weak springs. Not to mention I don't really want to change the geometry of the trailer. If anything ever happened and insurance company found out that the axle was flipped, it could result in void coverage or payment.
Actually I'll ask the spring shop and see what they think. They might agree with you LOL
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Jerry,

There are a number of threads on the forum about the flips. many did them. The insurance thing ???

Your TT is so old I'm not sure the flip would impact insurance. Who do you have insurance with, if I may ask? When I checked with my auto they said they don't do full coverage on anything over 10 yrs. old. I could get some for road assistance I believe it was....with less coverage at more money than Good Sam.

When the TT is attached to my truck, the truck insurance coverage is in effect, however, not for towing the TT in the event I needed such.
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It's the same here in Canada. When it's attached to the tow vehicle it's the vehicle's insurance that covers it. When it's parked in our driveway it's under the house insurance. Our insurance company is Buckley's out of Toronto. I find that if there is anything that is not stock or something has been modified an insurance company will find any excuse not only to void coverage, but worse, not pay on a claim no matter how well things are done/built.
I realize my trailer is older (1985) so to get any collision coverage might be like pulling teeth. I'm not worried about that aspect.

My main concern is my public liability and property damage if it was my fault or the fault of the trailer and/or the hook-up (and in this case, any modification). After a while one gets toughened to the smaller fine print and I have heard of too many cases where John Doe was not covered because of this or that.
I guess I'm a little on the defensive for these issues. Hence is why when I'm restoring to trailer (as best I can) I want to keep everything, including suspension design all original.

That said I will contact my agent and get his view based on their policy
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I think my question should be. Is it best to get replacement springs or is adding a leaf on each side "good enough"?
Approximately 3 years ago, I was faced with the same questions. I opted to change out the spring pack for an entirely new spring pack and upgrade the spring pack to the next higher carrying rating. Since your are in Ontario, if you want to check out comparative pricing on the parts you are quoted, I suggest you check out Cerka. Here is a link to there website:


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I kind of thought about that but then I'd still be dealing with weak springs. Not to mention I don't really want to change the geometry of the trailer. If anything ever happened and insurance company found out that the axle was flipped, it could result in void coverage or payment.
Actually I'll ask the spring shop and see what they think. They might agree with you LOL
When I did the spring pack I also swapped out axles and did the axle flip. I checked with my insurance company and they had no issues with it. I see you are dealing with your home and auto insurance company for coverage. Since you are in Canada, I would highly recommend you check our Wayfarer Insurance. They specialize in trailer insurance. I know a few people who have had awning claims with both a car/home insurance company and Wayfarer. The one with the car/home insurance company had to fight with the company to get the claim paid. The one with Wayfarer had no issue. In fact this happened on a 3 week trip our friends were on. They contacted Wayfarer and there first concern was if they were okay and if they needed alternative accommodations. Once Wayfarer was assured they were okay to continue using there trailer, they took down the information of the incident, then had our friends contact their dealer and tell them what they needed and had the dealer contact Wayfarer with the claim number they were provided and the cost to replace. Upon returning home the dealer had the awning waiting for them and they just had to take the trailer in and have it installed. I know Wayfarer maybe a little bit more expensive than your home/car insurance policy, but everyone I know who has had a claim with them, can't say enough about how well they were treated.
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Thanks TB, I already sent to Wayfarer for a quote for my rates, although my company is hard to beat. That said let's see.

I'll still be asking the spring shop next week. Flipping the axle kind of reminded me of those off-road tent trailer we see every once in a while going up the 400 to Muskoka








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