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07-26-2017, 09:51 PM
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Window seal separation
I've seen the window seals/weather stripping separate from windows on a number of units, the last one being from a T-1950 which had water damage below it. I wanted to see if this type of seal separation was common and an easy fix or would replacing the entire window be easier or cheaper? Could it be the cause of the water damage do you think?
This pic is from a unit at a dealer but it has the same window seal separation that i've seen in the past.
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07-27-2017, 08:55 AM
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Hmm. I haven't really noticed it on older Sunlines. The only change I've seen is with the outer screw cover, which is mostly cosmetic, and it shrinks over time a bit.
The 1950 window pictured is an emergency escape window, if that makes a difference.
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Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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07-27-2017, 03:37 PM
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Mine has the same on an escape window. Doesn't appear to leak and I tbought it held the glass into the aluminum frame.
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07-27-2017, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by enormiss
Mine has the same on an escape window. Doesn't appear to leak and I tbought it held the glass into the aluminum frame.
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Thanks enormiss. For what it's worth- I recently went to look at a T-1950 that had this window seal issue and from the inside of the trailer all looked perfectly dry with no signs of stains, no smell, nothing. But when I used the Moisture Gage to test the wall wetness the area directly under this escape window pegged the meter. If you haven't already, you might want to grab a moisture gage and test your trailer just in case. I think it was $40 on amazon and it may just save you some headache and $$.
Thanks again for the info-
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07-27-2017, 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunline Fan
Hmm. I haven't really noticed it on older Sunlines. The only change I've seen is with the outer screw cover, which is mostly cosmetic, and it shrinks over time a bit.
The 1950 window pictured is an emergency escape window, if that makes a difference.
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Thanks SunlineFan. I'm guessing that would mean a replacement window might be more expensive? I've seen the molding shrinkage you're referring to and I think that may just be cosmetic?
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07-27-2017, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mcj7247
Thanks SunlineFan. I'm guessing that would mean a replacement window might be more expensive? I've seen the molding shrinkage you're referring to and I think that may just be cosmetic?
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Well yes, but I was also thinking it might have a slightly different type of seal since the window can swing out freely.
I haven't seen much seal shrinkage on Hehr windows...the newer (white framed) Kinro windows seemed to have it a lot worse. The Hehrs just have screw cover issues, whether it be shrinking of rubber on the radius corner windows or the plastic screw cover getting brittle and cracking/falling off on the square corner windows.
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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07-27-2017, 08:05 PM
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I believe I also have the kinro windows with the white frame. The weather stripping has shrunk some leaving a gap. Do I need to replace the all the weather stripping or is this just cosmetic?
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07-27-2017, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by sparksolaris
I believe I also have the kinro windows with the white frame. The weather stripping has shrunk some leaving a gap. Do I need to replace the all the weather stripping or is this just cosmetic?
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Your camper is a 2005 unit, right?
On these newer campers with the white windows, the white vinyl insert around the glass is a cosmetic strip. It does not seal the glass to the frame.
All 3 of my 2004 campers have this problem. Some time earlier this year a members linked to a roll of the insert trim. I can't seem to find that post tonight. My son looked into it as he wanted some for his 2006 unit, but that specific web site was in like 500 or 1,000 foot rolls I think. Need it in a smaller length.
Hope this helps
John
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07-27-2017, 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by JohnB
Some time earlier this year a members linked to a roll of the insert trim. I can't seem to find that post tonight. My son looked into it as he wanted some for his 2006 unit, but that specific web site was in like 500 or 1,000 foot rolls I think. Need it in a smaller length.
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Is this the one you were remembering?
http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f7...tml#post137852
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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07-28-2017, 10:00 AM
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Yes, that is the one with links and pics. Thanks!!!
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07-28-2017, 11:41 AM
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Thanks John, That what I was hoping. That makes sense since there are weep holes on the bottom of the frames.
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Originally Posted by JohnB
Your camper is a 2005 unit, right?
On these newer campers with the white windows, the white vinyl insert around the glass is a cosmetic strip. It does not seal the glass to the frame.
All 3 of my 2004 campers have this problem. Some time earlier this year a members linked to a roll of the insert trim. I can't seem to find that post tonight. My son looked into it as he wanted some for his 2006 unit, but that specific web site was in like 500 or 1,000 foot rolls I think. Need it in a smaller length.
Hope this helps
John
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07-28-2017, 01:28 PM
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I just went to look at mine. Out of 9 windows (all hehr, black) just the two escape windows have the shrinking. Mine looked just like the pic in 1st post. I was able to push them all back into place and they held (for now) except one corner that immediately pulled away. The glass appeared glued to the frames as well so this is either cosmetic or a secondary seal / attachment.
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