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09-24-2011, 07:29 AM
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Help Identifying a Truck Camper
I bought a used Sunline truck camper and the only identifying info I can find on it is a paper sticker inside the wardrobe. It reads "Model 7 M R" and "Ser No 2010053". Is there anywhere else on the camper for me to look for more info?
Thanks,
Fred
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09-24-2011, 10:11 AM
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I pulled the threshold plate and looked under it.......no VIN plate. Bummer. Any other places to look?
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09-24-2011, 12:26 PM
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Welcome to Sunline Owners Club!
Have you checked out the FILES tab at the top of the page? You can download brochures by year. Look at the striping and floor plans to see if you can find your camper.
You can also submit your VIN# (serial #?) to Sunline Fan through http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f6...stry-7724.html and he can probably tell you more.
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09-24-2011, 07:41 PM
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Hi Fred,
That serial number you found must be the RVIA seal number, which is just to the right of the serial number on that sheet. Do you have the "Serial number of unit" field on that sheet but is it blank? If you do have a number there, often times it isn't the entire VIN.
If you have a blank sheet, there are only two other places that I know of. One is under the sill plate. The other is on a sticker/plate outside. Depending on the year, it is a plate before it changed to stickers in about 1976. Most of these stickers disappear over time as they don't weather well, so you may be out of luck. A member here completely disassembled a '78 truck camper a few years ago and the only hidden place he found was underneath the sill plate.
According to the RVIA tag number, it looks like a late 1976 or early 1977 model.
Jon
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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09-25-2011, 09:06 AM
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Hi Jon,
Thank you for taking the time to reply. The RVIA badge to the left of the door has the same Ser No. as the sticker inside the wardrobe; 2010053.
The Ser No. of unit reads C300977. I would guess that makes this truck camper a 1977?
Looking through the OEM brochures I see now why the camper doesn't fit my truck. This camper was designed to fit in the little Japanese trucks of the late Seventies and early Eighties. My truck is a full size F-250 and the cab over won't claer the cab without raising the camper 7" above the floor of the bed. I have added five inches on top of the bed rails in order for the camper to make contact there. The 7 MR is seven feet long at the floorline and is designated a "Mini-Runabout". I will probably have to sell it and get one that will fit my truck better. Booooo.......I really like this camper.
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09-25-2011, 09:25 AM
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I forgot to add.....Mr. Pete Martin did the final inspection on my camper when it was built.
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09-25-2011, 09:36 AM
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If building a " 7 inch sub-floor" in your truck bed would allow the camper to fit/work in your truck, and did not make the truck top-heavy, why not just go that route. You have a camper you like, so if a mod can make it work, go for it.
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09-25-2011, 01:46 PM
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Kanyonkitty,
With the camper that high off the floor and such a small contact area (7'X38") it is VERY tippy. That's why I built up the bed rails.....to give it stability. Besides, she-who-must-be-obeyed would like a truck camper with a shower. I'll try to sell this little one on Craig's List and find one that fits better AND has a shower.
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09-25-2011, 04:16 PM
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HEHE, if "mama" aint happy, there is no way to dodge the issue, just get the right thing, and in your case it appears to be a different camper. Hopefully your will be able to find another Sunline. Gary often finds them on Craigs List, and many of them look to be in nice shape, but photos can be deceiving. We have often talked about getting a truck camper for a quick weekend getaway, but with 2 greyhounds, it would be a real tight fit. But ya never know, maybe when some of our (Garys') "projects" are completed, and I am feeling better we just might make that leap. I like the idea of it.
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09-25-2011, 09:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fhafer
Hi Jon,
Thank you for taking the time to reply. The RVIA badge to the left of the door has the same Ser No. as the sticker inside the wardrobe; 2010053.
The Ser No. of unit reads C300977. I would guess that makes this truck camper a 1977?
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Hi Fred,
Correct, it is a 1977 model. I'm not sure the exact production number, but it may be 2009 because I think they started around 1000 for this year. The "C" means it's a truck camper ("T" would mean travel trailer). Based on that number though, it is very very late in the model year. In fact, could you verify that it is 3009 and not 2009? Even though you are only my seventh record for 1977, they are fairly spread out and the closest to yours is 1895, and I just don't think they made that many in this particular year.
Also, to complete your entry, I do have a couple questions:
- Is your exterior siding color stripe the Brown/Gold combo or the Green fade?
- What is the interior fabric color, roughly. (blue, brown, orange, lime green, beige, etc.)?
Thanks,
Jon
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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09-26-2011, 05:19 AM
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Jon,
The top and middle stripes are both red with the wider middle stripe having a thin black stripe running through the middle.
The upholstery is a brown/green/white plaid for both the cab-over bed and the dinette cushions. This appears to be OEM.
I will double check the numbers tonight.
Thanks again for you time Jon!
Cheers,
Fred
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09-26-2011, 03:58 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by fhafer
Jon,
The top and middle stripes are both red with the wider middle stripe having a thin black stripe running through the middle.
The upholstery is a brown/green/white plaid for both the cab-over bed and the dinette cushions. This appears to be OEM.
I will double check the numbers tonight.
Thanks again for you time Jon!
Cheers,
Fred
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Thanks Fred! That exterior combo sounds like it was done later on. Sometimes you may see a little hint of the original color in a spot they missed if it was painted over, unless of course the aluminum was replaced completely. I came across a '77 trailer when I was going down the road last fall and it had been painted light blue in the color stripe area. It was for sale, so I stopped, and up close I could see it was the brown/gold color originally. The colors alone, I can understand why people are wanting to paint them these days to modernize them a bit. Here's a link to a '76 or '77 camper with the brown/gold color:
1970s Sunline Truck Camper
That green plaid sounds right. All of the interiors were plaid choices of different color variations. I've never seen an interior choice list for anything older than 1985 though, so I'm not sure of a definitive list of colors. I'd say since you have the green interior, your exterior was probably green and not brown/gold.
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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06-05-2024, 04:08 AM
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Truck camper title has only 10 letters for vin?
Hi first off my truck and camper that goes on the back of the truck was stolen and Tucson Arizona in February 2024 and I have the title still however it only has 10 numbers and letters for the vin. Does anybody know how this works because obviously 10 numbers doesn’t work and when you try to search for vin 10 doesn’t work needs more so very confused about this because now I can’t claim it stolen or report it, anybody please help respond. I will be very grateful. Thanks. Have a blessed day.
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06-05-2024, 08:15 AM
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Hi That guy10,
Your camper stolen, that is extremely disheartening, and pathetic too that someone will even think of doing that. I feel for you.
On the VIN, and a truck camper that is as new as yours was, I’m not sure on truck camper’s if they have to follow the same rules as a trailer or motorized vehicle for a 17 digit VIN since they do not touch the ground, may be more considered cargo.
I can’t tell exactly what your camper brand is, if the manufacturer is still in business, try calling them to confirm the VIN numbering system. and they may help you back into your full VIN if something is missing.
If your manufacturer has gone out of business, maybe try calling Northwood Manufacturing in Oregon who makes the Arctic Fox truck camper. Or Lance, While they may not help you on your brand both of those companies would know the VIN practice if your 10 numbers are a thing for the model year yours was made. They are both top manufacturers and their customer service has been very good so they may help as they can.
Hope this helps and let us know how you make out. Good to know for the future as Sunline did make tuck campers in the early days
John
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