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05-17-2007, 02:34 AM
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hot water tank turn on
probably will look like a dumb question, but is there any other switch that turns on the hot water tank other than the rocker on the tank itself? we have our solaris on a permanent site, w/sewer so we dont use any pumps. we noticed the pump read out near the kitchen sink and what looks like a water tank turn on, but are not sure. thanks
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05-17-2007, 06:58 AM
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What year/model TT do you have?
If it is a newer TT - that would be the switch - BUT DO NOT turn it on without water in the H/W tank - just ask Kitty - she just went throught a week long project of changing out the heating element!
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05-17-2007, 10:57 AM
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When you say turn on the HW heater do you mean on gas or electric?
See if this helps any as on the newer Sunlines they have a circuit breaker special for the electric heating element. Meaning the rocker switch can be on and lite up but still no power will flow to thw electric element.
See this post with pics on the newer models.
http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/ph...ighlight=#2872
Hope this helps
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05-22-2007, 03:45 PM
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water heater
we have a 2000 T2753. The picture is not exactly the same. we just wanted to be able to turn it off and on from inside the trailer. right now we are opening the back and flipping the switch.
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05-22-2007, 10:06 PM
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Re: water heater
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Originally Posted by leshil2031
we have a 2000 T2753. The picture is not exactly the same. we just wanted to be able to turn it off and on from inside the trailer. right now we are opening the back and flipping the switch.
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You mean you have to go outside, drop the HW heater cover and turn it on there?
H'mm. My dealer did say they added the breaker inside with my 2004 year, but I did not know for sure if it meant all Sunlines or he really did not know as they only carried Sunline for about a year before I bought mine. Their deal with Jayco fell thru and they picked up Sunline.
John
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05-23-2007, 04:18 AM
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Good Morning Kathy,
I can really tell you about option "C" that John B told you about. "I" was the one that turned on the electric to my WH with no water in the tank . Replacing the element is not hard, but gaining decent access to the elemment is, well, challenging, very challenging at the least. See my post under repairs and maintenence.
Kitty
PS: Do you know if you WH is propane only or propane & electric?
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05-23-2007, 05:48 AM
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right now we open the back of the trailer and flip the rocker switch on the top of the water heater to turn it on. there is a panel in the galley that shows the water pump status but we are on permanent site so we dont use the pumps. there is a rocke switch next to a red light marked
'reset' but the rocker switch itself is not marked so we really have no clue. we bought this trailer w/lots of data but nothing in all the paperwork is tellin us if this the on switch for the hot water heater.
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05-23-2007, 05:49 AM
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we also do not use gas for the hw heater. electric only
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05-23-2007, 08:15 AM
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leshil2031
You should have a switch on your level gauge panel that will turn on the water heater using gas on your level gauge panel. It sounds like the switch to turn it on using electric is on the outside. A friend has a Silverback with a Suburban water heater that I believe is similar. They can turn on the water heater using gas from a switch inside the trailer, but the switch to use electric is in the outside on the water heater.
Our 1999 Sunline T-2670 had a gas / electric water heater. You could turn on the gas from a switch that was part of the level gauge panel similar to the picture that JohnB showed, but there was just 2 switches on the panel; one for the water pump and one to turn on the water heater using gas. To run the water heater off electric, there was a switch on the back of the tank. I had to reach through a hole on the lower bunk to get to it. That’s why we never ran the water heater off electric, we always used gas. I’m guessing your 2000 Sunline is similar, but that year the electric switch was moved from the back to the front with access from the outside.
But it sounds like you never use gas to heat the water. You probably could wire up a switch inside to run the water heater off electric. You would have to remove the switch from the water heater and snake wires into the trailer and position the switch inside. Not sure what type of effort this would be, not knowing your trailer’s layout, but I wouldn’t imagine it to be too easy.
The only other suggestion I have is check your converter box / circuit breakers to see if any of them are labeled for the water heater. The water heater should be connected to one of the breakers, it’s just a mater of figuring out which one, if it’s not labeled. Once you figure out which breaker is for the water heater, you could always use that to turn the water heater on and off. Keep the switch in the water heater compartment turn on and use the circuit breaker to control it. As long as there’s water in the tank, I believe it’s ok to keep the electric heating unit on all the time while you’re at the camper. If this is not true, hopefully someone here will correct me.
Good luck and hope this helps.
Hutch
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05-23-2007, 09:23 AM
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My '99 T-2453 is much the same as Hutch's '99 was. There is a black switch in the galley area with a red indicator light. That switch controls the gas portion of the hot water heater. If it does not light or runs out of gas or stops working in any way, the red light comes on. Normal operation is light off.
There is a little box on the back of the hot water heater with a rocker switch on top of it and a 110 vac wire coming out of it. This switch turns on the electric heater element. The hot water heater is below a wardrobe cabinet next to the bed, and the backside of the heater is accessible only from the outside of the trailer through a hatch. Getting at it to replace the element would not be as bad a job as Kitty had with hers, but it would be annoying.
My electric panel has both 110 vac circuit breakers and 12 vdc fuses. One of the circuit breakers is dedicated just to the hot water heater. In my case, it is ALWAYS off as most of our camping in New York State Parks where there are no electric hookups.
On the rare occasions where we are in a park with electric, I just stick to my habit and use the propane side of the hot water heater. In my situation, the electric heater element is strictly a back-up to the propane, and then only when 30 amp service is available.
There is enough space on the wall area around the main electric panel where I could easily add a switch to the electric side of the hot water heater. If I were to do that, I would get myself a heavy duty (15 amp. or better) switch with an indicator light built-in so that I could tell at a glance that the electric hot water was turned on.
As always, you mileage may vary.
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05-23-2007, 11:19 AM
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thanks for all your help. we dont want to use the gas for the hw heater so i think we will search out the breaker and work it from there. no big deal to access it just makes it easier from the galley.
thanks again!
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05-23-2007, 12:15 PM
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Water Heater, Water pump panel
In my T2553 galley, on the water pump, water heater rocker switch panel, there is a little red light that says DSI FLT. Could someone please explain this indicator to me. I can't find it in the owner's manual?
Joe
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05-23-2007, 12:45 PM
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Joe, If I remember from our delivery inspection correctly, it indicates the water heater failed to light.
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05-23-2007, 02:28 PM
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Joe,
MACK's correct. Typically, an auto-ignition water heater will try to light off gas 3 - 4 times, if it doesn't light on the 3rd or 4th try, it will stop trying and the indicator light will be lite. FLT stands for Fault, can't remember what DSI stands for. Toggle the switch and it will go another round.
When we pull our camper out of storage after a few weeks, it usally takes 2 or 3 rounds to get the water heater lite on gas. Then it's good to go.
What I also do, after the camper has set idle for a few weeks, I light each range top burner to get the gas flowing through the lines. This helps a little.
Hutch
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05-23-2007, 03:42 PM
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Hutch,
DSI means Direct Spark Ignition.
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05-24-2007, 12:13 PM
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Thanks everyone for answering a question that I've had for a long time. Water heater has never failed to light(yet). But I'll know what that little red light means now.
Joe
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