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Old 07-19-2007, 07:53 AM   #1
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My wife and I just became proud qwners of a 2006 T2363. We also joined the Sunline Ownere Club. We are looking forward to a great experience as club members. I previously owned a small class B motorhome and a 35 foot motorhome. This is my first time with a TT, so all help will be appreciated. I'm a retired tractor trailer driver, but am told that my experience will be of minimal help with handling a TT. I could use some help sugesttions selecting a vehicle to tow it with.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:05 AM   #2
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Hi Morphius,

Welcome to the club! As for tow vehicles, I'd recommend any 3/4 ton to do the job. I'd personally recommend a Ford, but Ford, Dodge, & GM all have great 3/4 tons. You may want to check out the Towing & Tow Vehicles forum and if you have any questions, post them!

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Old 07-19-2007, 09:27 AM   #3
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Welcome morphius421 to the Sunline Owner Club (and family).

Congratulations on you new Sunline, you chose well. Great floor plan and better coach. Youíll get many years of enjoyment out of it.

I donít agree with the person who told you that your experience as a tractor trailer driver would be of minimal help. Your experience and knowledge of the road will be invaluable (and considerable help to us ).

To answer your question about what type of tow vehicle to get, focus on the following manufacturerís specification on the tow vehicles youíre looking at:
Gross Combined Weight Rating (GCWR)
Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)
Tow Rating.


A starting rule of thumb that I use is if the tow vehicleís tow rating is greater than or equal to the trailers GVWR, then the tow vehicle is a potential candidate.

Your T-2363 has a GVWR of 6,000 lbs. So look at tow vehicles that have a minimum of 6,000 lbs tow rating. I would recommend looking at tow vehicle with ~7,000 lb tow rating, because for trucks and SUV, the tow rating is reduced by the weight passengers and cargo located in the tow vehicle.

Here are some formulas that may help you look at the weight ratings of the tow vehicles youíre looking at.

Total Loaded TV + Total Loaded TT < TVís GCWR
Total Loaded TV + TT Tongue Weight < TVís GVWR
Total Loaded TT < TT GVWR
TT Tongue Weight + TV Load on Rear Axle < TVís GRAWR
Weight of Cargo in TV + Weight of Passengers in TV + Total Loaded TT < TVís Tow Rating.


Inside one of your cabinet doors in your T-2363 should be a weight sheet that tells you the Dry Unloaded Vehicle Weight (UVW) and weight of LP and water. You can use this UVW and LP weight + say 1,000 lbs for cargo (probably a high estimate, but better to estimate high) to come up with an estimated trailer loaded weight. Than take 15% of the trailerís loaded weight to estimate the trailerís tongue weight. (also probably a high estimate) If you use a weight distribution hitch, not all the trailerís tongue weight will be transferred to the tow vehicle, but again to estimate on the high side is ok, use the 15% value as TT tongue weight.

We towed our previous Sunline (a T-2670 with a GVWR of 7,000 lbs) with a Ford E-150 conversion van that had a 5.4L engine and 3.55 gears that had a 12,000 lb GCWR and 6,900 lb tow rating. It towed it extremely well.

What I would recommend, if looking at Ĺ get at a minimum a large V8 engine (5.4L Ford, 6.0L GM, Hemi, Dodge, etc.). 3.73 gears would be good, 4.10 gears would be over kill for your needs plus probably lower you mpg. Other tow vehilces with smaller engines may pull your trailer, but you probably wonít be a happy camper .

Check the weight ratings to make sure youíre within the manufacturerís specifications for any tow vehicle your looking at.

Also remember, what every you get pulling, you have to get it stopped also, so make sure the tow vehicle has capable brakes and get a good brake controller. I would recommend a proportional brake controller (like Tekonsha) over a time based controller.

Hope this helps some.

Again congratulations and welcome to the club.
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Old 07-19-2007, 09:50 AM   #4
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Hello Morphius,

Welcome to the Sunline family. We also have a 2006 T2363. We love it! It is a great floorplan for us. This is our first TT so we are full of questions. These people are so friendly and helpful.

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Hello Morphius!

Welcome to the forum! Any questions - ask away - someone on this forum is bound to know the answer.....best "family" to belong to!
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Welcome fellow trucker. You have chosen one of the best coaches on the market. Having your driving experience, that coach will be like pulling a pup. With the size of your coach, you should be able to get away with a half ton PU with towing package. A large V8 with a RA ratio around the 3:70 range should be great and still get fairly decent milage for everyday use.

A WD hitch with sway control and a good brake controller like the Prodigy is highly recommended. As you have already learned from your career, it pays to get the best up front and pay a little bit more now than pay alot later when you have problems and break down on the road.

Enjoy your retirement.

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Old 07-19-2007, 07:06 PM   #7
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Thanx Eveyone

I sincerely appriciate everyones help and suggestions. My 30+ years of tractor trailer driving experience (some over the road, the rest local to the Philadelphia and surrounds) may be useful to others. please don't hessitate to ask.
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Re: Thanx Eveyone

WELCOME!!!!

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My 30+ years of tractor trailer driving experience (some over the road, the rest local to the Philadelphia and surrounds) may be useful to others. please don't hessitate to ask.
Yes, can you please talk my hubby out of buying a tractor trailer? He wants it to tow the Jeeps!
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Old 07-19-2007, 08:50 PM   #9
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Morphius,
If you can drive a tractor trailer around Philly, you can pull a TT anywhere you darn well please. I have to deal with those people on the turnpike every morning and evening. I live in Morgantown and work right outside Chestnut Hill. Welcome to the forum............I'm sure you will like it here, Marshall
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