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SSF156

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I'm planning to reseal the roof and I continue to receive conflicting advice. I noticed there was some RTV sealant placed in the areas of leaks. It has since cracked and I'm unsure how to go about removing it and resealing the roof.

Do I just apply Henry's Tropi-Cool or should I focus on recaulking seems or both? I attached photos of the products I have and an example area. I'm very new to all of this and want to assure I don't leak.
 

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Hi SSF156,

I will try and help.

I have successfully completed four camper roofs and one metal porch roof using Henry's Tropi-cool products. I also helped another Sunline member coat his truck camper metal roof with Tropi-cool. The process is slightly different than just the two products you show. A Henry 885 seam repair product also needs to be part of it. I am glad to pass on the learning from this, but first, you must understand your camper and roof "before" undergoing Tropi-cool treatment on your roof.

I know you are new to this, and that's OK. You have come to the right place to ask any and all questions so you can make the best decisions.

I will start by expressing my opinion of Henry's Tropi-cool process. The treatment is intended to be a long-term, permanent solution "after" all roof repairs have been completed. If applied correctly, it will last the life of the camper. The coating is good, but you must understand that the camper must be "prepped correctly" before you start the Tropi-cool process, or the product will fail quickly, as the bond to the roof was incorrect.

Let's start with pics of what you have and how to create a get-well plan to make the roof sound and leakproof. We will put the Tropicool process to the side for the moment; again, this is the long-term plan, not the quick-fix-it plan, as the roof has to be "prepped" correctly and any water damage addressed before the Tropi-cool process. You said this,

I'm planning to reseal the roof and I continue to receive conflicting advice. I noticed there was some RTV sealant placed in the areas of leaks. It has since cracked and I'm unsure how to go about removing it and resealing the roof.

The metal roof is good but has weak areas that can leak if left unattended or repaired incorrectly.

This front seam is a problem area, and the prior owners did not repair it correctly. You inherited this problem.
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It looks like the black stuff appears to be a tar product over a white caulk product that also failed. All that stuff has to come off the roof to return to the metal roof surface. Then, we can apply a lasting sealing product made for a camper that flexes going down the road. If you can post a close up pic also helps us see the detail of the old stuff.

You did great at posting the pics of that front seam area. Can you post pics of the all the other seams and roof penetrations, like a roof vents, etc? There are roof left to right roof seams about every 18 to 24" down the length of the camper. Need far away and close up pics to tell details. We must deal with all of the roof, and "how" to get the old stuff off and what to "put on" to all the areas. If we can see how the whole roof and detail areas, we can help you create a get-well plan to do the work in stages. You do not have to do all this at once.

You mentioned there were evidences of leaks in your first note. Tell us about these areas you know of, pics help too, about where they are and what they look like. The water damage under the roof surface needs to be addressed in some fashion before you totally seal up the roof.

Do you have a place where the camper can be stored inside while you do the work or will it be stored outside and all the work needs to be done outside. If you have active leaks now, covering the camper with good tarp that is strapped down well or getting an actual camper cover to cover the entire camper is a way to stop any active leak until you can get to deal with it. And there may be a combo of tarp and camper cover as the winter time approaches.

Give us some more details and we can help get you started on the get well roof plan.

Also, this Henry 289 product is "not" the right stuff to go with the Henry Tropi-cool products. The 289 is for acrylic coatings, not high solids silicone like the Tropi-cool products. If you have not opened it, you can return it to Home Depot.
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The Tropi-cool products are the 887 (the big open areas) , 885 ( any roof penetration) and 884 products (the caulk formulation). I suggest not to buy any more products just yet until you have the total roof plan sorted out.

I hope this helps get you started.

John
 
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Unfortunately I only have an outdoor storage area to keep it. Tomorrow is my only day until mid November that I'll have to work on the roof. I'm planning to strip the tar material with xylene tomorrow. I attached other trouble areas on the roof. These are the best I have for now.

It doesn't appear my Home Depot has 885 are there any good alternatives. A local RV dealer may have it. 885 goes into seams? I'm planning to scrub it good with baking soda water and vinegar water rinse.
 

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Hi,

On the pics you posted above, you have a project on your hands. It does not look good. If you only have one day to work on the camper, I suggest you cover it with a tarp. Then, with bungee cords, strap it down well so the wind does not get under it. Then, create a plan on how to deal with the work.

You can try to get the old stuff off or see what process works so when you come back to getting time to work on the camper; you know your method will work getting off "all" the old patch jobs done wrong. Then, cover the camper back up.

To get the tar and other possible stuff off, I suggest using a heat gun and a stiff metal blade scraper with all the blade end edges dulled up so as not to scratch the roof. See if the heat will soften it enough to scrap the large part of it off. Keep the heat gun moving so as not to burn while standing still. If you have no heat gun, a hair dryer can work in a pinch for a short time, although you damage the hair dryer if you use it for a long time, so make sure it is not the only good one you have for the house. You only need a simple 1,400 to 1,500-watt heat gun; one or two speeds are good enough.

Once you get the major stuff off, try the chemicals to get the rest of the fine stuff off. I would start with mineral spirits on a rag, wipe it on, let it stay for a minute or two, then scrape, rub, and rub to see if it will cut the little traces left over. I have yet to try the Xylene you mention if it will strip the paint. I know mineral spirits will not strip the paint. Mineral spirits (MS) will leave a film that needs to be removed after cleaning with it. I use Naphtha, a high-flash cleaner; it eliminates the MS film and evaporates quickly, leaving almost no residue. Denatured alcohol will also remove the MS film; it just has very little cleaning action compared to the mineral spirits and Naphtha.

If you have silicone caulk up there, scrape it down as far as you can. Then try Goo Gone or another silicone remover to soften the little traces left, and scrape and wipe some more. It won't be easy getting silicones off on the metal that has a pebbled metal surface.

I would recommend you "do not" start the Henry Tropicool process at this starting point. There is too much to learn about checking the bond to the surface, storing the product so it does not harden in the gallon can after you open it several days later, and much more learning. You should only consider the Tropi-cool application once the entire roof is repaired and cleaned, and you know you do not have to lift the roof to fix water-damaged wood under it. Yes, you can repair broken vents on a Tropi-cool coated roof, but that is not the same as opening up a roof seam the width of the camper.

If you can clean the front seam down to the metal, use Dicor's self-leveling lap sealant on the seams or other joints on the roof, vents, etc. https://dicorproducts.com/product/self-leveling-lap-sealants/.
It is sold in many RV dealers or online. It comes from a standard-size caulk tube and will bond to "clean" metal roofs. You have to get the surface clean. It will not bond to dirt, oil film, tar, silicone, etc. Using the Dicor now will stop leaks once cured. It is rated for RV road travel, and you can more easily remove it if the seam has to be done to repair the camper. The Dicro will buy you time to do all the seams and open one tube at a time. Also, it is what is used on new campers from the factory. While the Dicor caulk needs constant maintenance attention annually, if properly applied, there are very few cracks in the caulk in the first three years. As time passes, more cracks will come that must be cleaned and touched up. But doing the Dicor now gives you a few years and little time to apply the Dicor. And you can do it in stages.

Later, when you know the roof is all cleaned and prepped, any damage is repaired; only then, if you want to apply the Tropi-cool, will it bond to clean cured Dicro lap sealant and a properly prepped roof.

I hope this helps.

John
 
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So I put the Dicor on the seams. It looks like it turned out well!
 

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Hi SSF156,

Good, that is a good start with the Dicor. And yes, the self-leveling feature makes it all come out looking good, even if you have a shaky hand.

Were you able to scrape/clean off all the black stuff and anything else down to clean metal?

If you did, what combo of cleaning process did you use?

Thanks

John
 
I used xlXylene to loosen the tar and a Quinn Painters tool to scrape it off. It was a tedious process but it worked pretty well. I don't believe it left any film on the seams. It did stain parts of my camper so I will have to scrub it off.
 

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