Hiller and Kitty, Those Excels do make you drool don't they? Same with the Cameo, DRV, NuWa, and New Horizons. Call me cheap, but even with our plans to full time for a year we can't justify the cost. The local dealer offered us a Cameo 31something for $62K before he even knew we had a trade. But...till you buy a dually, then the camper, $$$$$$$$$$$. The Tweety starts looking pretty darn good!