Sunline T 1450 -New owner. She is going to be fun to decorate.

[Songman50]

Just purchased our first SunLine. I was looking through the floorplans on the internet, for the 83’ and I didn’t see one that had a kitchen galley in the rear and shower toilet bathroom where this one is located. This trailer I bought is 12 feet and the seller told me it weighs 1200 pounds dry weight. She hardly shows her age and is very well kept. I have not even taken possession of it as I will be picking it up on Friday. The only bad thing I see is that the frame underneath as a lot of flaking rust. I assume a good wire brushing, and painting it with some rust oleum would be in order? I will have many questions as I get begin decorating!

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[johnmanna]

Wow it looks pretty clean congraulations enjoy your new to you sunny

[JohnB]

Welcome!

And congrats on your "to be" new Sunny! . It does look to be in pretty good shape for a camper that old. Someone loved it well.

I'm unsure where you were looking on the web for floor plans, but you have come to the right place! Our community is always ready to help, and we have the sales brochures of most of the campers.

If 1983 is the correct model year, your pics might line up with a 1983 T-1450. But you can confirm since you can see more about it then we can from the few pics.

See here in our FILES section. Look at the top of the forum, and when logged in, click the tab called FILES. Then, look for brochures and scroll to your year.


For the travel trailers, there are two files, one with floor plans and the other with specs.

Here is the specs brochure https://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/d...o=file&id=5482

Here is the floor plans brochure https://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/d...o=file&id=5481

Have fun reading up on all the things about your camper.

Happy camping,

John

[Songman50]

Originally Posted by JohnB

Welcome!

And congrats on your "to be" new Sunny! . It does look to be in pretty good shape for a camper that old. Someone loved it well.

I'm unsure where you were looking on the web for floor plans, but you have come to the right place! Our community is always ready to help, and we have the sales brochures of most of the campers.

If 1983 is the correct model year, your pics might line up with a 1983 T-1450. But you can confirm since you can see more about it then we can from the few pics.

See here in our FILES section. Look at the top of the forum, and when logged in, click the tab called FILES. Then, look for brochures and scroll to your year.


For the travel trailers, there are two files, one with floor plans and the other with specs.

Here is the specs brochure https://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/d...o=file&id=5482

Here is the floor plans brochure https://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/d...o=file&id=5481

Have fun reading up on all the things about your camper.

Happy camping,

John

Thank you so much! The owner had told me it was a 12 footer so I wasn’t looking at that model number. I thought it looked bigger than at 12 footer.

[Songman50]

Originally Posted by johnmanna

Wow it looks pretty clean congraulations enjoy your new to you sunny

I was surprised how clean it was! The paints pretty faded on the outside, but will tackle that with some new striping later on.

[Songman50]

Since I have not picked up the trailer yet, I have mistakenly called this at 12:50 when it was brought to my attention. It is a T – 1450.

[JohnB]

Originally Posted by Songman50

The only bad thing I see is that the frame underneath as a lot of flaking rust. I assume a good wire brushing, and painting it with some rust oleum would be in order? I will have many questions as I get begin decorating!

Hi,

I'm sorry I missed answering this earlier. I'll expand on this for you and others as it is a common question. Yes, camper trailer frame rust is common and should be addressed if you plan on keeping the camper for a long time, especially if it lives outside all the time.

Extreme rust to the point that what is left is very thin, we need to talk some more, as that can be a structural problem. So far, I have only seen it get this bad when the camper was used near the seashore area. The salt air is very aggressive and can/will attack camper frames that have very little paint on them to begin with. One of my friends had a three-year-old Fleetwood Terry travel trailer whose frame looked to be 30-plus years old. He would pull the camper onto the beach and camp near the east coast oceanfront. Sheets of rust were coming off the entire frame. I was shocked to see how fast and bad the rust had greatly accelerated. When it starts coming off in sheets of rust, this is aggressive.

Common rust on old campers can make it look like the whole frame is brown with no paint or that only a few small spots have paint left. It is a fine brown fuzz of rust, so to speak. There may be a few small areas of golf ball dimple-size pits, but this is also common.

If there are areas with heavy rust by the axle spring hangers or on the A-frame up front by the trailer ball coupler, it would be a good idea to have someone familiar with steel trailer frames inspect them further to determine whether that is a problem.

If your frame is in the fine rust stage, there are several different processes for what to do with it. This all comes down to the level of detail you want to make it look and last.

Here is what common rust can look like on a 20-year-old Sunline that lived outside most of life. I did not see any heavy sheet rust. But a lot of fine rust and some dimples.




Next is what to do to it. On that camper, I was restoring the entire camper. It is sort of a trophy camper now, and as such, I put more detail into the frame to last its lifetime. I used KBS Rust Seal as the process. This link will take you to the camper with more details.
https://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f...tml#post151034

The process is like this:

1. Scrape and wire brush all the metal to remove any loose rust.
2. Wash and rinse the frame with a degreaser to get all dirt and grease/grime off.
3. When the frame is dry, prime the frame. In this case, with the KBS product which is an acid etch.
4. Top coat the frame; in this case, it is two coats of KBS Rust seal.

I have also had very good success using Rust-Oleum products in place of the KBS. This method requires a little less work and cost but still yields good results.

I do the same 4 steps above but with different primer and paint.

I use the same KBS Klean degreaser, but I use Rust-Oleum Pro rusty metal primer. https://www.rustoleum.com/product-ca...y-metal-primer

And I top coat with Rust-Oleum Pro High-Performance Protective Enamel. https://www.rustoleum.com/product-ca...tective-enamel

The rusty metal primer goes on really well and seals and covers everything easily. Here is a pic of our big 2004 T310SR done with the process.


And the top coat


Others have used the Por-15 process; I have not, but it is claimed to be high-end. It would be similar to the KBS process.

Some folks have also used a rust converter product to prime the metal. Years ago, I had very good luck with petroleum-based rust converters. But since the change to water-based converters, I have yet to find a brand that works correctly. I end up with metal rusting due to the converter process and then blistering of the top coat. With the switch to the rusty metal primer, I have had no issues. Someone more experienced in the auto paint work may suggest a quality rust converter that does work.

One thing I will say, doing the frame under the camper is, well, work. Doing a quick job will not yield lasting results. Cleaning the frame before treatment is critical to any painting process, and that work can be painful/tedious. I suggest pulling the camper up on wood blocks under the tires to help give you some ground clearance. If you put the work into the scrape, and clean process, then you will get better lasting results. And for sure, wear safety glasses and or a face shield when working over your head. The dirt mess failing and even paint drips can cause great havoc if they get in your eyes. You really want to do the job right if you plan to keep the camper.

I hope this helps.

John

[Songman50]

Thank you, John for taking the time to go through that so thoroughly. I appreciate it. My frame is a little rougher than that! Here’s a photo of it. I have it at the restoration shop and they’re gonna look at it. Give me a quote to wear brush it, and Coat the frame and axile. Attached a video in my album.

[JohnB]

Originally Posted by Songman50

Thank you, John for taking the time to go through that so thoroughly. I appreciate it. My frame is a little rougher than that! Here’s a photo of it. I have it at the restoration shop and they’re gonna look at it. Give me a quote to wear brush it, and Coat the frame and axile. Attached a video in my album.

You are very welcome!

Your pic was not posted, as you mentioned. I'm not sure if you forgot to link it or made an error. I went to your photo album, and there are frame pics there

Link to your album https://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/m...albums922.html

And one of the pics. Ah, yup, you look like you have lots of bigger than golf ball size dimples.



I'm curious to know what the shop will quote to do the frame if you do not mind posting. They may have a lift even to get the camper up in the air to make it lots easier

Thanks

John

[Songman50]

[QUOTE=Songman50;160031]Just purchased our first SunLine. She hardly shows her age and is very well kept. There is a surprising amount of storage and what’s really nice is a sofa. Bed opens up to a full queen size bed! (77”L x 60” W)The only bad thing I see is that the frame underneath as a lot of flaking rust. I assume a good wire brushing, and painting it with some rust oleum would be in order? I am open to any of your suggestion's, as we work to personalize Her. I will be adding photos to our album “83’ SunLine T-1450”

[Songman50]

The shop is called Vintage Trailer Land, from Medford, Oregon. 97501.

[Songman50]

[JohnB]

Hi Songman50,

Your blank (no words) post above suggests that you may need help linking pictures from your photo album to a post. As a moderator, I can see the commands you used to get a picture to post.

You inserted this, ["IMG]http://3621IMG[/IMG"]. I added the " marks so the software would not act on this, and you can see it.

To "link" pics from your album, you need a full URL address that ends in a picture format such as .jpg or .png.

Since you already know how to access your photo album, I'll start with how to get the full URL of the picture you want to post.

You need two windows open, one with your post reply and the other with your photo album. This makes it easier to flip back and forth between screens. I'm doing this on my laptop with a mouse. You can do this on your phone, but I'm more of a laptop guy than a phone guy trying to do this.

Once you have the two windows open,

1. Go into your photo album when logged in. You will see a listing of the pic in it. This is one of my albums of a Sunline Meet & Greet we held.


2. Select the picture (click it to expand it) you want to link to a post you are working on. I selected this one.


At the bottom of the picture, only in your album, you will see two boxes with red arrows pointing to them. One is labeled "Picture URL" and the other "BB code". Both of those pictures have the full URL path to that specific picture, but the BB code one has IMG commands already created.

3. Let's try the BB code first. Take your mouse and swipe/select the entire BB code box (Press the left mouse button and swipe to select). You will see the BB code is now highlighted as what you selected. You must swipe the entire box, from left to right, to the end of the box to select all the code.


4. Right-click your mouse button to bring up a menu popup. Select "copy." This copies the entire BB code (or whatever you selected) into your computer scrape buffer.

5. After you have clicked on the "copy" command, then flip windows and go to your post. Here I have one to show you.

You can place your mouse cursor where you want the picture to appear; in this case, it is two lines down from the last text.


5. Then right-click again on your mouse; it brings up a menu, and you press "paste." After you press paste, the entire URL and IMG commands appear on the screen, as in the picture above.

If you do a "Preview" and copied the BB code over correctly, the picture will show up correctly in the preview, like this.


You can keep typing more text below the picture or many more pictures under it. Linking pictures does not limit you to only six pictures, as does when you "attach" them to the end of the post.

Have a try to get the BB code to work for you.


The other method is to use the URL box where you swipe that entire box, copy the entire URL into your scrape buffer, and then use the postage stamp icon.

Select and copy the URL code into your scrape buffer.


Then flip to your post window, press the postage stamp icon, and "paste" the URL into the box and press OK. The software will paste the correct IMG commands around the URL, and when you preview or post the reply, the pictures are linked to your post.


You can try both methods. The BB code has one less step for showing a picture than the two-step URL link and the postage stamp icon.

I hope this is helpful; please ask for help if you need help getting it to work.

We like seeing pics of your Sunline adventures.

John

PS, once you figure out these picture-linking things, there are other ways to link pictures to your post. The above is a good place to start.

[Lokiloki]

Originally Posted by Songman50

Just purchased our first SunLine. I was looking through the floorplans on the internet, for the 83’ and I didn’t see one that had a kitchen galley in the rear and shower toilet bathroom where this one is located. This trailer I bought is 12 feet and the seller told me it weighs 1200 pounds dry weight. She hardly shows her age and is very well kept. I have not even taken possession of it as I will be picking it up on Friday. The only bad thing I see is that the frame underneath as a lot of flaking rust. I assume a good wire brushing, and painting it with some rust oleum would be in order? I will have many questions as I get begin decorating!

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