|
08-01-2018, 02:43 PM
|
#1
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 854
SUN #1546
|
No Power -HELP
Driveway camping at a friends and using a 20amp plug
I am also using one RV extension cord and 30 to 20 amp pigtail
I had the AC on ( the only thing I run when its on) but turned if off to wash camper (roof and all)
When I went back in to turn on AC, no power
Checked and reset my breakers, checked the house breakers
I did have my 30 amp breaker tighten a few years back and when I went to reset it there was play in the panel the breakers set in
Reset the outside plug and replugged my cord
Nothing...
This is the second home I have driveway camped for a total of 5 days now
No problem at the first, my second day here but only ran a small fan in the camper last night
I know ZERO about electricity other than what I checked and came up empty
I can’t imagine washing my rig, like I have a million times had anything to do with other than I moved the power cord slighly?
Bummed
__________________
__________________
Joan & Miss Emme Lu Who
Full Timing in T-1950 2005 Anniversary Model
1997 6.5L Chevy Turbo Diesel Truck
"Pure Michigan"
Facebook: Apackof2 for the Rd
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 02:54 PM
|
#2
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 488
SUN #8237
|
Your 20 amp plug should be a GFI. Did you reset that? They are also known to fail.
__________________
__________________
John
2000 T2370
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 03:03 PM
|
#3
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 854
SUN #1546
|
Ok weird...I reset it once, still no power
Went out and plugged in a fan, did not work
Pushed reset again, plugged in 30 to 20 pigtail THEN RV cord and now its working?
Does it take a couple of minutes after pushing reset to get power? Is this likely to happen again??
Quote:
Originally Posted by johnnybgood
Your 20 amp plug should be a GFI. Did you reset that? They are also known to fail.
|
__________________
Joan & Miss Emme Lu Who
Full Timing in T-1950 2005 Anniversary Model
1997 6.5L Chevy Turbo Diesel Truck
"Pure Michigan"
Facebook: Apackof2 for the Rd
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 03:05 PM
|
#4
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Maryland
Posts: 488
SUN #8237
|
No Power -HELP
I’d eliminate the 20 amp plug first. As in be sure it’s got power.
__________________
John
2000 T2370
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 04:15 PM
|
#5
|
Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,155
SUN #123
|
I really wouldn’t run the air on a 20 amp circuit, it’s pretty risky. How do you know it’s 20 and not 15?
__________________
2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 05:15 PM
|
#6
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 854
SUN #1546
|
The owner told me.
My AC is 11,000
This is what I found....”It's going to depend on the actual model of the AC unit...
According to the specs from Dometic, the fan typically pulls 3 amps...
Some models of the 13.5 K BTU compressor pull as low as 10.3 amps...model 520315.501 for instance
If a 15 A plug won't handle 13.3 amps sumthin' is goofy...
BTW...I run my 11 K BTU AC off of a 15 amp cord...it pulls 12.6 amps”
I know its not great, I run the frig on propane
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sunline Fan
I really wouldn’t run the air on a 20 amp circuit, it’s pretty risky. How do you know it’s 20 and not 15?
|
__________________
Joan & Miss Emme Lu Who
Full Timing in T-1950 2005 Anniversary Model
1997 6.5L Chevy Turbo Diesel Truck
"Pure Michigan"
Facebook: Apackof2 for the Rd
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 08:45 PM
|
#7
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 544
SUN #2366
|
It's not the operating amperage that is the issue, it's the start-up surge that causes problems. There could also be some extra resistance in the pigtail/plug/wiring combo causing the draw to be higher than 13.3 amps. A 15 amp circuit is not big enough. Won't run my ac.
__________________
|
|
|
08-01-2018, 09:10 PM
|
#8
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 854
SUN #1546
|
Ahhh yes the start up
I use one RV extension cord and a RV 30 to 20 amp pigtail
Its a CFCI 20 amp electrical outlet
I think what happened is that unknown to me the above ground pool filter with the same plug was probably on the same circuit. We turned the pool filter off
However, I know its not the best thing for your AC
with
Quote:
Originally Posted by j52wf
It's not the operating amperage that is the issue, it's the start-up surge that causes problems. There could also be some extra resistance in the pigtail/plug/wiring combo causing the draw to be higher than 13.3 amps. A 15 amp circuit is not big enough. Won't run my ac.
|
__________________
Joan & Miss Emme Lu Who
Full Timing in T-1950 2005 Anniversary Model
1997 6.5L Chevy Turbo Diesel Truck
"Pure Michigan"
Facebook: Apackof2 for the Rd
|
|
|
08-02-2018, 07:31 AM
|
#9
|
Moderator
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Michigan
Posts: 6,155
SUN #123
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by j52wf
It's not the operating amperage that is the issue, it's the start-up surge that causes problems. There could also be some extra resistance in the pigtail/plug/wiring combo causing the draw to be higher than 13.3 amps. A 15 amp circuit is not big enough. Won't run my ac.
|
Yep, agreed. Add to that the small amount of power needed for running the converter for battery charging (to allow refrigerator to run on gas), running the clock on the microwave, etc, I'm sure it'll push it higher than 13.3 every time the compressor starts.
Then anything else running on the house circuit, such as the pool equipment, will cut down on the available 20 amps. Unless it's a dedicated circuit, I wouldn't even attempt it, and even then, I'd rather not chance it.
__________________
2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
|
|
|
08-02-2018, 02:51 PM
|
#10
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 125
SUN #9247
|
I tried the same once and melted the 30 to 20 converter plug. It was one of the cheap ones and it swelled up and stopped working, guess that was a good thing...
__________________
Norm 01 T267SR
|
|
|
08-02-2018, 06:22 PM
|
#11
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,357
SUN #2097
|
The little adaptors are only rated 15 amps. Will they handle more maybe but it probably is your problem they are not what I would call a quality piece of equipment.
__________________
|
|
|
08-09-2018, 08:09 PM
|
#12
|
Member
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Ohio
Posts: 32
SUN #7182
|
How long and what gauge is the extension cord? You can overpower small or long cords and martially melt the socket ends.
__________________
Retired Design & Quality Tire Engineer. Check out my Blog on RV Tire Safety for over 400 in-depth posts on tires, valves, and TPMS. I give seminars on RV tires various RV events for FMCA across America.
|
|
|
08-10-2018, 06:13 AM
|
#13
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Maine
Posts: 3,357
SUN #2097
|
Power cord length plays a big roll in current draw. The camper cord really is about max for distance and it's a #10 wire anything added to the camper cord at best is most likely to be #12 making things even worse this reduces voltage, as the voltage drops current demand rises. The camper GFI is not connected to the camper AC so if it tripped the AC should still run, the house should have a GFI protected outside outlet though.
__________________
|
|
|
08-11-2018, 08:14 AM
|
#14
|
Senior Member
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Michigan
Posts: 854
SUN #1546
|
I used an RV extension cord and an RV dog bone adapter. I have all LED lights and never ran anything but the AC when it was on
The outlet was a GFI and had a large plastic cover
The problem was the pool filter was running on same circuit
I turned it off
However, it was just for a few days and I am now back to good old 30amp
Quote:
Originally Posted by mainah
Power cord length plays a big roll in current draw. The camper cord really is about max for distance and it's a #10 wire anything added to the camper cord at best is most likely to be #12 making things even worse this reduces voltage, as the voltage drops current demand rises. The camper GFI is not connected to the camper AC so if it tripped the AC should still run, the house should have a GFI protected outside outlet though.
|
__________________
__________________
Joan & Miss Emme Lu Who
Full Timing in T-1950 2005 Anniversary Model
1997 6.5L Chevy Turbo Diesel Truck
"Pure Michigan"
Facebook: Apackof2 for the Rd
|
|
|
|
Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
|
|
Thread Tools |
Search this Thread |
|
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Sunline Discussions |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|