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03-31-2007, 07:35 AM
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T-2499 question
I see that All American is advertising two T-2499s on their web site.
The exterior picture shows that these have no front window. Is this common to all of the '07 2499s?
My pup would be very unhappy not to have a window to watch the crowd go by.
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03-31-2007, 08:15 AM
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Good Morning Boomer,
You are correct the 2499's do not have a front window. I'm guessing due to the headboard of the bed being installed on that wall and the clothes wardrobes on each side of the bed. It would probably be akward to operate the window. I personally love not having a front window as that is one less place for a leak, especially when you have to drive in a heavy, pouring down rain. I have twin beds so a front window would have been more accesible BUT, I'm still glad I don't have one.
Kitty
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03-31-2007, 01:12 PM
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Hmmm, Our 2004 has the front window. Wonder what year the window was deleted? Like I said, our pup would be most unhappy not to have that window to spy on the passersby. Thankfully since Sunline built it, the window doesn't leak unlike our previous trailer (Trail-Lite,) which was like a sieve.
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03-31-2007, 01:14 PM
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Hi,
I just bought a slightly used 2004 T-2499 and it does have the front window over the bed. I think they quit installing the front window on the '06 and '07 models. The window on my camper doesn't open and it has a rock guard on the outside of the trailer. This is my third Sunline and I specifically wanted the 2004 or older model just so that it would have this window. I don't care for the headboard and wanted the window for the extra light. It just makes the bedroom area seem more open to me.
Patricia
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03-31-2007, 01:36 PM
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Sunline quit putting windows at the head of the beds sometime around 2005-2006 (I think it started with the '06 model year) because too many people complained about condensation dripping down onto their pillows/heads from the window.
Jon
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Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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04-01-2007, 08:13 AM
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I'm confused. How could condensation drip onto your head from the window if the window is sealed and does not open? All three of my Sunlines have had this window and I've never had that problem. After looking at the 2006 and 2007 models, it appeared to me that maybe they were eliminating features to save money. I also noticed that the entertainment center on the 2499 for the '06 and '07 year models had also been changed. The top portion of the cabinet that is on my 2004 had been eliminated and someone also mentioned that the toilet sprayer wasn't on the newer models either.
Patricia
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04-01-2007, 10:42 AM
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Hi Patricia,
I'm not really sure how thats possible. Thats what LaRue told me last June. My only guess is that when camping in cooler weather, the windows sometime get condensation on the insides, even when closed, therefore it could drip down the wall. I've never had it drip down like that. The condensation I have just stayed on the window, only dripping down some when the sun was out and the temps rose, but thats in the middle of the day. I have a feeling it could be to save money too. I personally like the window because it adds more light to a small space. I also like the bathroom windows for the same reason. Most other manufacturers don't put in bathroom windows (or offer it as an option) unless you are looking at a really high end manufacturer with high end prices.
Jon
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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04-01-2007, 12:33 PM
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Hi Jon,
I love lots of windows too, which is why we chose the 2499. Our first Sunline was a 2000 2553, which we later traded for a 2004 264SR. A year or so later we decided we just had to have a fifth wheel and since Sunline had discontinued their fifth wheel models, we traded our 264SR for a Jayco Eagle 291RLTS. I NEVER liked the Jayco as well as I did my Sunlines. When I heard that the company had gone out of business, I started looking for one to buy. I found my 2499 on eBay and we're still trying to sell our Jayco. I know some people would think we've lost our minds to go from a 31' fifth wheel to a 25' travel trailer. But, I'm much happier with my little Sunline.
Patricia
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04-02-2007, 09:33 PM
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Yes, the 2004 T2499 had a front window. See here
H'mm someone was talking about a head board. Our does not have one. And some one was talking about condensation drips. Ah yup, got them. It does happen and colder an all get out by your head in the winter.
We camp in the winter and that single pane glass is cold. Burrrrrr and the aluminum frame around it sweats big time. And thus comes the drip on your head. And it leads to soaked pillow too
We solved the drips and cold problem by doing 2 things.
DW knit a heavy blanket then made a pretty curtain to go over it. You can see the purple yarn sneaking out in the pic below.
Then DH (that’s me) took a piece of 1” foam insulation board and cut it to fit exactly outside under the front window cover.
Now no problems. On the T2499 the side windows in the bed room let's a lot of light in. But if want more, open the front and break out the sunglasses…
Here is the inside redone.
Happy camping
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04-22-2007, 11:48 AM
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My husband and I just got back from a few days at Gulf State Park in Gulf Shores, Alabama. Our first night was windy and cold at around 33 degrees. I'm happy to report that the window over the bed worked out fine for us -- no condensation to speak of -- no water drips on the head and no cold air. That almost freezing temperature will probably be the coldest camping weather for us, so that particular window above the bed shouldn't be a problem.
Patricia
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04-22-2007, 11:58 AM
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Oops, I had a senior moment. The first part of our trip was spent at Windcreek State Park in Alexander City, Alabama and that's where we encountered the near freezing temps.
Patricia
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04-23-2007, 06:55 AM
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The consendation around the windows works just like a cold can of cola set out of the fridge, excpt the warm moisture is on the inside, cold on the out side, so the consendation builds up on the widows inside. It is usually only a problem when the outside temps get really low.
There is a really long drawn out explination of it in our Que manual, but that is the "gist" of it! (I am not very science oriented!)
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04-23-2007, 08:18 AM
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Kathryn,
Wow, there must have been a lot of unhappy owners complaining about the windows to result in an addition to the owners manual.
Jon
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2007 T-286SR Cherry/Granola, #6236, original owner, current mileage: 9473.8 (as of 6/18/21)
1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
1979 12 1/2' MC, Beige & Avocado, #4639
Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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04-23-2007, 09:12 AM
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I know, Jon, right?
The funny thing is that is a camper thing. Happens in every camper we have ever had when the temp get cold outside. It was one of the main reasons we sold the Aliner. We bought a small de-humidifier, and have never had an issue since. NO moisture= no condensation.
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04-23-2007, 06:57 PM
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My last camper was a hybrid (with tent ends). You can imagine the cold weather condensation issues. "Real" trailers have much less of a problem.
You do need to ventilate well, yes, even in the cold. You need air to circulate as you and other campers are breathing and creating moisture too.
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