Floor rot 1995 sunline travel trailer t2475

[Stearns]

I just purchase this sunline travel trailer and found soft spots in the floor after I got home.
I believe it's mainly the bathroom but it does go out in the kitchen a little. Its my first camper. We are upgrading from a tent
I believe to relpace the floor I have to remove the toilet and shower. Can anyone tell me how to proceed? I'm a little disappointed with my purchase. It was supposed to be complete and ready to use. Everything els seems to work as it should. It's in great shape for the year other than the floor.
Thanks in advance for the help!

[jim44646]

Welcome to forum. I found this link that might help.
http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f7...air-14347.html

[Stearns]

I don't see a link.

[jim44646]

You see blue Bathroom Floor Repair? Try clicking on that. Also sent you a PM

[Stearns]

Jim I saw that repair but I'm looking for info on removing the cabinets /sink and shower too. I

[jim44646]

Don't know about shower but campers are made from inside out. Cabinets are fastened from the outside by screws. 2 ways to remove them are take siding off and remove screws or use a vibrating cutting tool and carefully slide blade from inside the cabinet between wall and cabinet cutting screws. You will mare wall

[jbinnh]

can you give us some pictures?
John

[OhhWell]

Hi Stearns. I respond to your introduction thread as well but found this one too. Obviously like you said your repair would be more in depth than my toilet leak but interestingly in the same camper I had to do a complete rear end rebuild and didn't take the siding off. Of course on ours, I also didn't have a lot of cabinetry issues to overcome.

First off, I can completely understand if you are starting to get that sinking feeling. I get it every time I find something wrong with these darn things. You have a rear bathroom and from what you stated so far, it sounds like your leak is originating from the drivers side rear around the shower?

Even though the shower looks like an easy culprit, have you inspected the roof yet? The corners and especially rear are a main source of roof leaks. Our first camper was a '94 2770 which also had a rear bathroom. Interestingly, my floor was also soft as all heck under the cabinets. My shower pan had a leak which I fixed and thought that would at least stop the water until I went up on the roof. The other camper had leaked in the rear corners as well.

Really, the best way to do this fix is to remove the siding which isn't all that difficult. once you remove the side caps, it slides off like house siding. The problem of course is that this will take days and you have to cover it with something if you don't have a barn or something to keep it in. I found some rather large tarps for cheap on Amazon when we did the roof on our motorhome.

Once you get the siding off, it's just wood work and insulation. The real pain will be if the main outer beams on the top and bottom are mush.

Now, you really need to decide if you feel like investing the time in a pretty serious rebuild or if you just want to make it safe and clean for your family and get rid of it after a few years.

If it's the second option, it will still be a bit of work but you should be able to get in and remediate and somewhat stabilize using Ethylene Glycol and epoxy products. I used Git Rot two part epoxy and had really good results in the past. Dig deeper into my thread and I think there was some good info on remediation in there. You will likely have to take out not only the flooring but all kinds of stuff to get access to the wet floor and underside.

First things first though, stop the leak.

[Stearns]

Originally Posted by OhhWell

Hi Stearns. I respond to your introduction thread as well but found this one too. Obviously like you said your repair would be more in depth than my toilet leak but interestingly in the same camper I had to do a complete rear end rebuild and didn't take the siding off. Of course on ours, I also didn't have a lot of cabinetry issues to overcome.

First off, I can completely understand if you are starting to get that sinking feeling. I get it every time I find something wrong with these darn things. You have a rear bathroom and from what you stated so far, it sounds like your leak is originating from the drivers side rear around the shower?

Even though the shower looks like an easy culprit, have you inspected the roof yet? The corners and especially rear are a main source of roof leaks. Our first camper was a '94 2770 which also had a rear bathroom. Interestingly, my floor was also soft as all heck under the cabinets. My shower pan had a leak which I fixed and thought that would at least stop the water until I went up on the roof. The other camper had leaked in the rear corners as well.

Really, the best way to do this fix is to remove the siding which isn't all that difficult. once you remove the side caps, it slides off like house siding. The problem of course is that this will take days and you have to cover it with something if you don't have a barn or something to keep it in. I found some rather large tarps for cheap on Amazon when we did the roof on our motorhome.

Once you get the siding off, it's just wood work and insulation. The real pain will be if the main outer beams on the top and bottom are mush.

Now, you really need to decide if you feel like investing the time in a pretty serious rebuild or if you just want to make it safe and clean for your family and get rid of it after a few years.

If it's the second option, it will still be a bit of work but you should be able to get in and remediate and somewhat stabilize using Ethylene Glycol and epoxy products. I used Git Rot two part epoxy and had really good results in the past. Dig deeper into my thread and I think there was some good info on remediation in there. You will likely have to take out not only the flooring but all kinds of stuff to get access to the wet floor and underside.

First things first though, stop the leak.

Thank you for the detail reply. I plan on using it next week for a scheduked trip then when i get back i with dive into this. There is no leaks for sure from the roof. I'm in the water damage mitigation business so finding wet materials is what i do for a living. the wood and insulation part I'm not to afraid of. We just had a hell of a lot of rain and no leaks. The damage is actually mostly on the passenger side after further investigation.
It is a rear bathroom and toilet is on passenger side. I believe it has to do with the toilet. When I ope. The compartment on the passenger side rear there is is a sunkin part of the floor there. Also can you tell me how to post pics?

[OhhWell]

Originally Posted by Stearns

Thank you for the detail reply. I plan on using it next week for a scheduked trip then when i get back i with dive into this. There is no leaks for sure from the roof. I'm in the water damage mitigation business so finding wet materials is what i do for a living. the wood and insulation part I'm not to afraid of. We just had a hell of a lot of rain and no leaks. The damage is actually mostly on the passenger side after further investigation.
It is a rear bathroom and toilet is on passenger side. I believe it has to do with the toilet. When I ope. The compartment on the passenger side rear there is is a sunkin part of the floor there. Also can you tell me how to post pics?

Well, that is pretty good news then! Well, maybe not nearly so bad news... For photos, I upload them to photobucket first. When I view them on photobucket, there is a grey icon of two links from a chain that will get you the links. When you click on that icon, on the new window that pops up, on the right hand side one of the boxes says Direct Link. I copy that then come back to my forum post here and click the "Insert Image" icon above and past the link from photobucket in.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was your toilet. Mine had leaked internally. Hopefully you can get some pictures up. We love pictures here even if they are of something bad like a soggy floor. If you have a week, might want to put a little Ethylene Glycol on the wood you can get to without ripping anything apart to kill and keep away any mold or rot. It should be dry and safe within a week if you just do an initial light coat.

[Stearns]

Originally Posted by OhhWell

Well, that is pretty good news then! Well, maybe not nearly so bad news... For photos, I upload them to photobucket first. When I view them on photobucket, there is a grey icon of two links from a chain that will get you the links. When you click on that icon, on the new window that pops up, on the right hand side one of the boxes says Direct Link. I copy that then come back to my forum post here and click the "Insert Image" icon above and past the link from photobucket in.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was your toilet. Mine had leaked internally. Hopefully you can get some pictures up. We love pictures here even if they are of something bad like a soggy floor. If you have a week, might want to put a little Ethylene Glycol on the wood you can get to without ripping anything apart to kill and keep away any mold or rot. It should be dry and safe within a week if you just do an initial light coat.

Here are some photos. I hope that works. So I cut the membrane under the trailer to see what's going on.I have a seriously saturated outer rear corner. I think I'm gonna put things back together tomorrow and tackle this when I get home.

[Stearns]

Originally Posted by OhhWell

Well, that is pretty good news then! Well, maybe not nearly so bad news... For photos, I upload them to photobucket first. When I view them on photobucket, there is a grey icon of two links from a chain that will get you the links. When you click on that icon, on the new window that pops up, on the right hand side one of the boxes says Direct Link. I copy that then come back to my forum post here and click the "Insert Image" icon above and past the link from photobucket in.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was your toilet. Mine had leaked internally. Hopefully you can get some pictures up. We love pictures here even if they are of something bad like a soggy floor. If you have a week, might want to put a little Ethylene Glycol on the wood you can get to without ripping anything apart to kill and keep away any mold or rot. It should be dry and safe within a week if you just do an initial light coat.

Here are some photos. I hope that works. So I cut the membrane under the trailer to see what's going on.I have a seriously saturated outer rear corner. I think I'm gonna put things back together and try to ignore it until we return after the 4thhttps://www.dropbox.com/sh/ae1lwjnaqlnkgps/AADE28gUnblBqw-X3rgaPHoya?dl=0

[jim44646]

I see the water damage is in the area of the hot water tank. I would also be checking that out for leaks.
Another way to post photos from a computer is to click on Go Advanced which is beside Post Quick Reply, Click the paper clip (attachments) there you can upload photos straight from computer. You can also add a video from there.

[OhhWell]

That works but you will probably want to put a space between "4th" and the url. Good pictures. First off, the person you bought it from is a scumbag kinda like the guy who sold us our last Sunline. There is no way they didn't know about that. I can see the classic separation of the bottom siding strip where the awning anchor has nothing but wet wood to grab in to. Obviously do not use your awning with it still in those brackets, anchor the poles to the ground with some tent pins. With that siding out like that, it is just catching the rain like a gutter and dumping it into your camper. Bend it in as much as you can and gorilla tape over it to keep the rain out for now.


I don't think your toilet was the source of the original leak. Have you found the original source yet? It could be a tail light, storage panel access door etc...


Please put some Ethylene Glycol (Anti-Freeze) on that mess now since you are going to put your family in it and camp. Just lay a layer on top of every soft bit you can get to with a paint brush even if it is not dry. Then let it dry for at least 4 days.


The real nice thing is that thanks to the linoleum, it doesn't look like you will need to do any cabinet work unless you want to do a complete flooring replacement. If you don't have an oscillating tool yet, you may want to look into getting one. Those things are amazing for stuff like this. You may have to get a little creative but you should be able to get this thing pretty decent with that, traditional power saws, a floor jack and pry bar.


In this picture :







How bad are those support beams along the sides there? Are they mush all the way through or is there still something of a solid(ish) core of wood in the middle? What I'm wondering is if there is anything to support the framing in the walls on that side or if the metal siding and roof frame is taking the weight of that corner as it goes bouncing down the road.

[OhhWell]

Originally Posted by jim44646

I see the water damage is in the area of the hot water tank. I would also be checking that out for leaks.
Another way to post photos from a computer is to click on Go Advanced which is beside Post Quick Reply, Click the paper clip (attachments) there you can upload photos straight from computer. You can also add a video from there.

Jim, have they upped the storage limit for locally hosted images? That was the main reason I went to hosting on photobucket (Which is becoming out of control with the ads now)

[Stearns]

Originally Posted by OhhWell

That works but you will probably want to put a space between "4th" and the url. Good pictures. First off, the person you bought it from is a scumbag kinda like the guy who sold us our last Sunline. There is no way they didn't know about that. I can see the classic separation of the bottom siding strip where the awning anchor has nothing but wet wood to grab in to. Obviously do not use your awning with it still in those brackets, anchor the poles to the ground with some tent pins. With that siding out like that, it is just catching the rain like a gutter and dumping it into your camper. Bend it in as much as you can and gorilla tape over it to keep the rain out for now.


I don't think your toilet was the source of the original leak. Have you found the original source yet? It could be a tail light, storage panel access door etc...


Please put some Ethylene Glycol (Anti-Freeze) on that mess now since you are going to put your family in it and camp. Just lay a layer on top of every soft bit you can get to with a paint brush even if it is not dry. Then let it dry for at least 4 days.


The real nice thing is that thanks to the linoleum, it doesn't look like you will need to do any cabinet work unless you want to do a complete flooring replacement. If you don't have an oscillating tool yet, you may want to look into getting one. Those things are amazing for stuff like this. You may have to get a little creative but you should be able to get this thing pretty decent with that, traditional power saws, a floor jack and pry bar.


In this picture :







How bad are those support beams along the sides there? Are they mush all the way through or is there still something of a solid(ish) core of wood in the middle? What I'm wondering is if there is anything to support the framing in the walls on that side or if the metal siding and roof frame is taking the weight of that corner as it goes bouncing down the road.

It's mush right there to the corner. I'm gonna cut it out and put a new one in before I go camping
I put some equipment inside to dry out temporarily till I have time to tear it apart.
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[Stearns]

This is under the seat for the table closest to the bathroom

[Stearns]

I have the furnace and the ac on plus some special drying equipment to dry it out some before I go camping for a week this sat.

[OhhWell]

Originally Posted by Stearns

Very nice. I forgot that you did say you were in the business. That should work a lot faster than the house fan and blow drier I used on ours!

[Stearns]