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Old 10-28-2013, 04:16 AM   #1
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BAL Telescoping Stabilizing Jacks

We recently sold our '93 T-1700 and have had two weekends in our new-to-us '99 T-2053. Something we miss from our past trailer was the stabilizing jacks that I could just crank down when we got to our site. I'm not interested in scissor jacks, and would like to install BAL Telescoping Stabilizing Jacks.

Anyone install these before? I'm pretty sure Sunline installed these when they were still in business.

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I have them on my 2363 and am happy with them. I had to repair one that had a weld break, no problem, and removing them and reinstalling was simple. Mine are simply screwed to the frame. Instructions with them seemed pretty complete. If any problems do pop up I'm sure someone here can help.
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I have the Lippert equivalent on my Rockwood and they work just fine. I enjoy the feature that compensates for uneven ground. Mine are electric, but the manual ones are easy to crank and both sides go down at the same time.

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The telescoping ones are what I have too. As I recall, they only require a couple of holes in the frame and you may already have the holes for the bolts/screws to hold them on. They are not hard to install. The hardest part was holding them up to get the screws started.
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Thanks for the input, guys.

Quick question - they have three sizes available 20", 24" and 30". Does anyone know the length of the legs on your jacks? According to the website, I should get 20" legs, but am thinking 24" may be sturdier.
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I just went out and measured mine on my 2363. The legs are 20" long and the bottom of the frame rail(s) where they mount is 14" off the ground.
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Personally I'd go scissor instead of those. Those are exactly what the description says, stabilizing. They are designed to touch the ground.

I suggested my dad put some on his toy hauler because it came with just back ones from the factory. He goes deep into the woods with it, not at all level. They bent like a pretzel.

Sunline did offer those for many years as factory options though, until about the mid '90s. Then the scissor jacks were what they used.
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Are any jacks for stabilizing or lifting the camper designed to take the place of good wheel chocks?
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Are any jacks for stabilizing or lifting the camper designed to take the place of good wheel chocks?
For me with my T-1550 single axle the wheel chocks and my jacks (simple 4 pyramid jack stands) play two different roles.

For one my axle is pretty much centered with a slight heavier load forward, esp. with full double 20# propane tanks and water tank full. When more then one person moves to rear lounge area, this changes the load. Think playground see-saw here.

The chocks keep the TT from rolling forward/backward and the jack stands keep the TT from pivoting when moving front to back and visa-verso and to a lesser degree side to side within the trailer. Live loads (i.e. people movement).

Leveling is with my tongue jack front to back and with wheel lifts side to side. The stands just support the four corners and help keep everything in balance. All work together in this effort. Each group playing slightly different roles.
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Are any jacks for stabilizing or lifting the camper designed to take the place of good wheel chocks?
IMO no jack can replace a wheel chock. I find that even longer trailers with six point jacks still shake some inside and can benefit from wheel chocks.
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I'd like to know more.
What benefit do the telescoping jacks offer over the scissor jacks? I've only had the scissor jacks and need an education.
It appears as the telescoping ones go further the 'foot' moves closer to the center of the trailer. That would seem a disadvantage, as opposed to dropping straight down like a scissor jack. When camping on an uneven surface I've had to drop my jacks a long way! On a softer surface wouldn't the 'horizontal' movement dig in as opposed to compressing the dirt? Just wondering...
BTW, using a cordless impact driver with a 3/4" socket is a nice hybrid option to consider when the manual v. electric question arises.
PS. You don't need to hold a jack up to get the bolts started. Just extend the darn thing to support itself!
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I'd like to know more.
What benefit do the telescoping jacks offer over the scissor jacks? I've only had the scissor jacks and need an education.
Mostly convenience. Both sides go down at the same time. You stand on one side of the TT to operate. Also, they retract higher into the bottom of the trailer, increasing ground clearnace.
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It appears as the telescoping ones go further the 'foot' moves closer to the center of the trailer. That would seem a disadvantage, as opposed to dropping straight down like a scissor jack.... On a softer surface wouldn't the 'horizontal' movement dig in as opposed to compressing the dirt? Just wondering...
Yes, the feet move closer to the center. No, they don't dig in. (The foot pads are rather large.) If the travel will be excessive, I stack Lynx levelers to occupy the extra space. If you chock your wheels on both sides to eliminate front-to-back movement, these jacks will lift the trailer several inches without a problem.

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Last fall I bent up one of the BAL stabilizing jacks on my T1950. They have worked very well so I wanted to replace the damaged unit but BAL says they no longer make that model. It has a one piece rail going across the width of the camper although the stabilizers work independently. Anyone know where I might turn to find a used matching one off another trailer.
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John, Sorry your stabilizer is damaged. You BAL sounds like the kind I have. One bar all the way across with a jack on each end. When I took mine off to re-weld a broken weld. What I found out is that the crossbar is two pieces. That might help to lower the price some since not really buying two jacking units. Each side was the same and the cross pieces overlapped with screws to hold them. The entire unit was held in place with two metal screws on each end. Once down there are more screws in the middle that allows each end to be separated. If your unit is like mine and really two jacks fastened together in the middle it might save some money buying one jack instead of two. Maybe remove the unit to double check if you will need two jacks or simply one side.

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Yes Jim, it is as you describe it. I was just foiled when BAL said they were not available anymore, not even the individual parts. I am dreaming that someone experienced the same situation and replaced the struts and kept the old pieces in the shed. We just lost the last of the snow so need to uncover and reevaluate the situation. Thank you for your response.
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I found some online, here are a couple of links. They do come in various heights, with prices to match. The footpads are extra.

BAL C-Series Jack 19 - $68.20 (price for pair)

Amazon.com: BAL 23025 Stabilizing Jacks Tent Trailer: Automotive

RV Stabilzer - BAL Telscopic for Sale - PPL Motor Homes


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Thank you Gene. It looks like I might have to buy a pair and the channel but that's not the end of the world. Will get some measurements and look these over.
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