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Old 09-05-2023, 07:58 AM   #1
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Awning Cord Question

Hi all! Although I have been a member since 2019, I still feel like a newbie! We have an adorable 1992 T1550 Saturn. The man we bought it from said all of the awning parts were there, but he thought it had a tear and and hadn't used it. We finally pulled it out this weekend. Everything is there, except it appears they cut the awning off of the camper! And the cord is no longer there. The vinyl is in good shape. Just needs a clean. Can we just replace the cord? And does anyone know the dimension of the cord on our model camper? Thanks in advance for any assistance. I have learned so much from this group!!!

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Hi Donna,

I don't know what brand of awning you have. Do you know what awning fabric you have? A vinyl fabric or an acrylic, more cloth-like fabric? In 1992, Sunline installed a standard awning rail on the camper, but the awning was an option. If Sunline provided the awning from the factory (the selling dealer may have ordered it to come that way), the brand would be A & E (Dometic bought them sometime along the way so it may be an A & E by Dometic.) We are unsure what brand and fabric awning you have, as a prior owner may have added it and not Sunline.

It also looks like you have the lower bracket for awning arms on your camper. That small camper might have a bag-type awing or a rollup-up awing. I can't tell by your small pic. In the case of the bag awing, the bag has the cord sewn in with the bag and slides in the awning slot on the camper. The roll-up awning has different hardware, no bag, and the fabric winds up on a tube.

But this may help. I am semi-sure the awning rail on the camper is an industry-standard size for that time frame. You can check the size of the awning rail for size and measure the width of the cord slot. Here is the small gutter rail with the awning cord slot on it. This is a roll-up awning, but is has the cord you are asking about.


You measure the inside diameter of the cord slot. In this case, it is 3/8". See if yours matches that.


I'm "assuming" it might match; you confirm. If it is 3/8", this is what awning cord is used to fit in that slot.

I have a few different brands of awning fabric in my shop from project campers I'm working on. All of these awning systems are A & E brand, but the fabric has been replaced on some of them, and it is not the original A & E setup. But we can see the range of awning cords that still work in the 3/8" slot.

This awning, I know, is not an A & E brand; the prior owner had it changed out with an aftermarket brand. You can also see the sewing on the awning fabric with the cord in the fabric.




That solid plastic awning cord measures 0.226". This is almost a 1/32" less than 1/4" plastic cord.


Here is another awning cord, a different Sunline camper, with the original A & E awning fabric. This awning fabric cord measures 0.243". This is just under 1/4". I would call it a nominal 1/4" cord, as it may have shrunk a little over the years, and they just have a manufacturing tolerance.


For the 3/8" awning rail slot, they use a 1/4" awning fabric cord. I'm unsure where you will buy the solid awning cord, but I have a place to start. If you have an awning repair shop nearby that makes new and repairs house awnings to size, they may have this type of solid plastic cord. And they may be able to sew it onto your old fabric if you do not have a sewing machine. You most likely have to remove the fabric from the awning hardware for them to sew it on. Again, do you have the bag parts if yours if it is a bag awning?

Cost. They do sell new awning fabric to go on existing awning hardware. The new fabric comes with both cords already sewn into the awing. Depending on what the awning shop charges to sew on a new cord, a new replacement fabric may not be that much moreósomething to look into.

I hope this helps.

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Wow John! Thank you SOOOO much! What a wealth of information you are! I was feeling rather dumb after I posted and researched more and began to think that the rail on the camper came with the awning system. But you mention it really may have come with the camper! I have a sail maker's awl and am going to attempt to make a "channel" in the vinyl awning for the cord to slip through. I believe my awning is a Dometic, based on the colors.... although an older one. Also, the brackets that attach to the upper part of the camper..... I haven't seen any photos like them! They are attached to the inner part of the arm.... All the photos I have seen show a separate bracket and the arm "snaps" into it. I will take a picture this evening cause the screw holes don't seem to line up close enough to the camper to work.... Sorry for all of the questions! I told my husband that they should offer classes at a community college like they do motorcycle riding, for beginners!!
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I'm baaaaaccckkkk! The internet is amazing! I was incorrect. I now believe we have a Faulkner Awning! I'm getting closer!!!!
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Hi Donna,

Thank you for the good words, I am glad to try and help as I can.

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I have a sail maker's awl and am going to attempt to make a "channel" in the vinyl awning for the cord to slip through.
H'mm, what are you referring to making a channel in the vinyl? There is much pulling force on the fabric when the wind blows, or rain comes. This pic shows the cord is wrapped with the end flap and sewn in place. The entire cord and two wraps of material slide into the awning rail channel. It then becomes solid to prevent the fabric from being pulled away from the camper and not stress the fabric.



I do not have the exact picture, but this may help. I use soapy water as a lube to help the fabric slide down the slot.


Then the awning fabric and cord are fed into the rail slot and pulled down, guiding it on the way in. The fabric and cord just fit in the awning rail, and the fabric then hangs out the slot in the rail


I hope this helps you.

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PS, Falkner awnings, yes the older campers sometimes had them installed by someone other than Sunline. In 1992 Sunline was offering A & E if it was ordered from the factory. Your pics of the hardware can help.
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John, I should have used the word "casing" when talking about sewing the awning to fit the polycord. I know nothing about travel trailers, but I am a seamstress. I think I can make it happen. I will definitely keep you posted!

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