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11-20-2013, 06:54 PM
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Is my antennae still relevant for today's tv?
i have an old antennae box in my camper. it plugs in to an electrical outlet and has 2 ports for cables (it looks like). i remember now when i bought the camper that there were several long pieces of metal and i was told this was the antennae. i just got a tv, and i'm wondering if this antennae will work with my new tv, and if so, how? or should i just ignore that box and get a new antennae for outside?
thanks for any input,
noralee
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11-20-2013, 08:25 PM
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The short answer is that any antenna that worked with the old analog TVs will work with the new digital TVs. Ignore any marketing hype about needing a "HD digital antenna".
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11-21-2013, 05:38 PM
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ditto with Gene's answer. Same frequencies, different type of transmission. Also FM radio and NOAA weather frequencies are between channel 6 and 7 so the TV antenna will work for them too. With an adaptor you can have a directional antenna with a signal boost on the radios.
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11-22-2013, 07:38 AM
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X3 on their input. In fact, I can get more stations with the old antenna than with the new Digital Antenna I bought. Just be sure to run a channel scan if you are in a new location.
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11-22-2013, 08:22 AM
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All though there is no such a thing as a "digital" antenna the new TV frequencies are a much higher frequency and antennas are designed to match the frequencies for what they intend to receive. As the frequencies go up the antenna elements become shorter so the new TV antennas become much smaller. This is a case where bigger is not better. Most of the RV antennas had receiver amplifiers to make up for their compromises of size and wide band width they were expected to receive frequencies over a very broad range that is the reason you see (or did) TV antennas with diminishing elements in size each element was “tuned” to receive frequencies in their respective band. The frequency is the same for both digital and analog transmission so the antenna does not care whatever the emission might be as long as it is designed for the frequency. If the signal is strong enough pretty much any antenna will receive it, not well and that becomes apparent the farther you get from the signal source. At that point a purpose built antenna becomes mandatory. The higher frequencies are effected by things that the older stuff was not including trees and leaves so if you are far enough away from the station you’ll need and antenna that was designed for the job and probably a receive amp to go along with it. It maybe fair to say "digital" antenna because that is the frequency band they were designed for and the only use is for digital TV but it is not a "digital" only antenna.
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11-22-2013, 08:26 AM
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I'm glad I understand race cars, because that just blew my mind! LOL
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11-22-2013, 10:52 AM
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That is a beautiful presentation. Very helpful info.!
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11-22-2013, 04:47 PM
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30 years as a ham radio operator taught me a lot about antennas! I have transmitted digital information for years on the very same antennas I use for voice.
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11-29-2013, 05:12 PM
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sounds like i will need an amp with an antenna, where i am in the trees. thanks ya'll
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11-30-2013, 06:32 AM
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Do you have an antenna on the camper? The crank up antennas do have an amp in them usually they are combined with a lighter plug and have a small switch for the antenna amp with a little led light. You can try that first and see what happens if you get an image but it's very poor then I think a wing man add on may help you out. Most all of the camper antennas were Winegard and the wing man elements are very easy to install. There is a web site called tvfool that will give you distance and direction for TV stations in your area. If the station is 20+ miles away and your in the woods you may have to resort to a better antenna on a mast
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12-01-2013, 06:39 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mainah
Do you have an antenna on the camper? The crank up antennas do have an amp in them usually they are combined with a lighter plug and have a small switch for the antenna amp with a little led light. You can try that first and see what happens if you get an image but it's very poor then I think a wing man add on may help you out. Most all of the camper antennas were Winegard and the wing man elements are very easy to install. There is a web site called tvfool that will give you distance and direction for TV stations in your area. If the station is 20+ miles away and your in the woods you may have to resort to a better antenna on a mast
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It sounds like she's describing the old school detachable style antenna. Can't find a picture on Google of one right now though.
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12-02-2013, 08:34 AM
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If it is she is probably going to be out of luck with out replacing the antenna on the + side the new high freq. antennas are pretty cheap because there is not much to them.
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12-02-2013, 08:43 PM
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i don't think i have the antenna pieces with me, but i know what is being referred to. i never thought that i'd have a tv in here because i usually just watch stuff online. but now i can't since i use my phone as a hotspot and streaming uses too much GB. either way, i'm surrounded by trees, so i think that i'll need an amp w/antenna.
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12-03-2013, 03:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noralee
i don't think i have the antenna pieces with me, but i know what is being referred to. i never thought that i'd have a tv in here because i usually just watch stuff online. but now i can't since i use my phone as a hotspot and streaming uses too much GB. either way, i'm surrounded by trees, so i think that i'll need an amp w/antenna.
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Yes and a pole high enough to get it over the roof of the camper a painters pole might work for you the antennas are very light.
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12-09-2013, 03:27 PM
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i'm trying out my new setup this weekend. hope it works!
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12-09-2013, 07:13 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by noralee
i'm trying out my new setup this weekend. Hope it works!
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:d let us know!
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12-24-2013, 06:15 PM
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well i was able to get 2 stations. abc and a substation. we are working on--looking into a mast extension to make it higher and try to get more stations. at a website that predicted what stations i'd be able to receive it at my address said that the property address above me gets over 10 stations so thats why i'm raising it to try to get better reception. the amp didn't made make a difference so far.
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02-17-2014, 03:59 AM
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i made an adjustment, and decided to get a slightly bigger antenna. i put it up, and removed the amp, and now i get 17 stations, yay. some are doubles but i get all the major ones i wanted. abc, nbc, cbs, fox and cw too, 3 pbs stations. don't know why anyone would pay for cable anymore!? if in the city with an antenna i'm sure you could loads more channels.
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02-17-2014, 06:52 AM
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I tried the poor man's way and used rabbit ears (with the loop antenna) sitting outside the TT - just for kicks. I got 4 or 6 stations in my driveway. In the canyon, it first found 4, but the next minute there was nothing. <LOL!> One of these days, I'll have to put a real one on it. The T1350 doesn't have a lot of roof area, but it is marked for an antenna.
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03-01-2014, 01:54 AM
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my hookup was a success, but sometimes the stations get 'dropped' for a second, so i wanted to hook up an amplifier. i sent the other one back thinking i didn't need it anymore, and i wanted to try the amp in the camper to see if it helps. i don't know if that's possible since my antenna is outside and about 20 feet up, not connected to my camper. the other amp connected onto the mast of the antenna, but this one is obviously diff. can anyone tell me how/if to use the amp in the camper with my antenna outside? what needs to hook up to what?
thank you
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