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Old 06-25-2007, 06:30 AM   #1
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enclosed heated underbelly

In looking around at TT's I've noticed that alot of manufacturers are enclosing and heating the underbelly. Since we want to spend time skiing in Colorado is there some way to rig up the QUE so that our holding tanks wouldn't freeze in extended freezing conditions? We were fine this April when it got down to 26 for a couple of hours at night, but what if it's freezing all day too?
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"Heated" is a matter of wording. Many manufacturers just run the duct work below the frame and allows the heat to radiate and "heat" the underbelly.

Real four-season trailers I think, are a little more robust.....like Arctic Fox trailers for instance. THere si always an issue with "cold" weather camping.

What is cold camping to you?
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Old 06-25-2007, 02:45 PM   #3
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Pam,

You may want to look at Ultra Heat's web sit.

This site should provide a lot of information and answers.
They sell heating pads and tap for tanks, pipes, and valve.
To do it right and be fully protected from freezing, you should heat the pipes and valves also.

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Old 07-30-2007, 08:31 PM   #4
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I don't do alot of real cold day to day camping. But what I've done when there are freeze warnings is to add RV antifreeze to both tanks and keep any cabinets open that have water lines ,etc. in them. For the cold weather camping we've done in the last twenty years that's cheaper than going to the TT's built for extreme cold.
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To answer the question

" What is cold camping to you"
In Florida anything below 70 is jacket weather. Anything below high forties is long john weather. So I guess it depends where you live.
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Hey Nick,

Way to stick it to us Northerners :P

Here’s a picture of cold (or cool) weather camping up here in the north.
See the ice on the lake in the background, behind the camper.


For us, 70-60’s is shorts, 50-40’s forties is light jacket, 30’s is long johns

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Old 07-31-2007, 06:34 AM   #7
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OK...I can't resist. This is Easter in Charlottesville, VA. (where our daughter claims it's always warm and beautiful
This is late morning, when we still have a dusting of snow.



This is the early morning view from the window, while it's still too cold to go outside.

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Old 08-13-2007, 08:47 AM   #8
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I thought about enclosing ous, too. It was pointed out to me (in addition to the points above) that it makes general maintence and repair more difficult because you have to take it off before doing anything under the camper. I was also told the supposed "better gas mileage" is minimal, at best!
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cold weather camping --- well that would be snow right? it is for us --- at least night time snow and warmer weather in the days.

i wish our underbelly was heated also it would have come in handy - as i did have the tanks freeze on our way home from florida last year.

i love it when we get to florida and everyone is all bundled up in jackets etc --- and we are wearing our shorts with the air on in the trailer/truck ---- its so funny!

but there is no way i could do a florida summer - i would cook! not pretty!
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My parents bought an old victorian home to turn into a Tea House and had the attic sprayed with this stuff. It was amazing how it blocked out any noise from the road, and insulated like nothing I've ever seen before.

www.icynene.com

I had a good friend insualte his barn with it, and he now swears by it. I was thinking of having the underbelly sprayed with it and seeing how it'll hold up?? I've tried to send them a few emails, but they havent returned any of them yet. I'll let you know if and when they do.

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winter camping

Last year, the second week of March we went to the NCAA Wrestling Championships in Auburn Hills Michigan. In spite of many campgrounds not yet open, we managed to find one fairly close to the arena. We learned a tremendous amount on this trip!! It was great fun and challenging. The first duh thing we learned was, one cannot connect the city water hose and leave it exposed overnight. The next morning we laughed at ourselves and then only turned on the water when needed. We had a fresh water tank empty for the trip. The other thing that made us chuckle was when we couldn't release our grey and black tanks because the slide mechanisms had frozen. Fortunately we had no problems related to freezing and it was pretty cool to wake up to snow on our camper and truck. This March we will travel to St. Louis for Nationals. I suspect the temperatures will be much different. We have thought about insulating the underbelly, but haven't done more than thinking. It would be nice to travel a bit further north, we are in Western PA, for cross country skiing. I think we would do it winterized and take fresh water in jugs.
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Re: winter camping

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Last year, the second week of March we went to the NCAA Wrestling Championships in Auburn Hills Michigan. In spite of many campgrounds not yet open, we managed to find one fairly close to the arena.
Janet,

What campground did you find open that was close to Auburn Hills? There aren't many campgrounds up in that area to begin with, and certainly not many open year round.

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We stayed at the Harbortown RV Resort in Monroe. It was a bit of a commute, but it worked out well. At first we were going to stay in Algonac state park, but opted for bathrooms and sewage hookup instead. We generally stick to state and national parks, but we were glad we changed our routine and drove a bit more.
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