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Old 10-22-2007, 09:05 PM   #21
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For those inquiring minds that need to know…. here are some inside pics. Having and still have, a T2499, this T310SR is an all grown up T2499 rear living area camper. Let Cindy and I take you on a tour.

Now keep in mind this is the stock Sunline configuration. In time it will grow to be a even nicer customized coach, both inside and out. And it is real nice now These pic’s are at night and the shades are down. Sorry it is raining here tonight and pitch black outside.

Here is the slide out. This is Fern Blue just like our T2499. And that is a jackknife couch with a totally open underside to put “stuff”


And here is the rear living area. Two swivel rockers and a full windows back wall area.


And the full height entertainment center. Again just like our (2004) T2499


Here is the table and chairs. It came with 4 chairs and we took 2 out. Will put back in when grandkids and family come. The woodwork in this table and chairs is unbelievable.


Here is the kitchen. It has a full pull out pantry. Once you have one of these, you can’t do without one.


And a shot looking into the sink area


And now a shot looking down the hall to the bath area.


Here is the shower with the Shub Shower screen. Same size shower stall as the T2499 just the soap holders are on the back wall. Hard to change old habits. Grab for it and it’s not there….


Here is the Sealand toilet area and sink.


And the sink area. That is a top side linen cabinet with shelves all the way to the bed room. And a tip open bottom hamper.


And the front bedroom view. This is carbon copy of my T2499.


And the extra drawer space for more stuff on long trips.


And the 2nd bed room door and window.


And a view looking back down the hall back towards the kitchen area.


The build quality of this camper is exactly what we where looking for and so was the floor plan. We had very little to compromise on. Even though this is a 2004 camper, the shape it is in is truly an unbelievable find.

Hope you all enjoyed the tour. Stay tuned for upcoming upgrades/custom touches. The first will be a variable speed water pump. Cindy reminded me the 1st time she turned it on. I upgraded in the other camper and I forgot how bad this wake the dead standard water pump is. The entire kitchen counter shakes.....

Happy Camping

John and Cindy
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Old 10-22-2007, 09:11 PM   #22
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John & Cindy,

May you have as much fun in your "new to you' Sunline as you had in your 2499!!!!

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We still have the T2499. We (I) still have separation anxiety..... We will keep it into next year and then regroup on it. This T310SR will head out west witih us in the future on longer trips.

And we will have fun in which ever Sunline we are in. Having a full time table and chairs in addition to some more 2 people room is really nice. If Sunline was still in bussiness the sliding T2499 may have fit the need.

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Old 10-22-2007, 09:24 PM   #23
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That is one nice looking Sunny. It looks like the TT meant to be behind your Suburban. Now you just need some new vs. old pics!

Jon

P.S. Did you guys have any wind? We had wind around here all day yesterday. Towing was miserable!!! I pulled off at a rest area and cranked another 360 degrees on the sway control. Instead of the trailer going off the road, the whole rig did!
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Thanks for the comments. Wind, oh yes. Saturday it blew beyond 30 to 35 MPH cross winds for 120 miles all the way to camp from Reading. If you remember from your Boy Scout hand book, Flags fly straight at around 30 to 35MPH and it was way beyond that.

My DC kept things in check but I will not stay on that hitch once I load this camper full up. I'm still working out if it will be a Hensley or a Pull Rite and the end result TV. My 2500 Burb did well and got us home with this empty camper. And in central Ohio it will do OK until I fully load this camper. Then it will be too much in both pulling and rear axle loading.

The rear living area campers can really be tongue loaded heavy. Being trained on my T2499 this T310SR will go way over the T2499 on tongue and the rear springs direct from the factory on any 3/4 ton SUV will not take this loaded tongue. Once things get settled down a 2500 HD or 3500HD will be in our future before we head west with this camper. We knew this before the 310SR and it is even lighter then the Artic Fox or Jayco Eagle we where looking at.

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Old 10-22-2007, 10:01 PM   #24
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John & Cindy,

Looks like you've settled right in to your new Sunline.
Thanks for sharing the pictures.

How did it tow? Feel much difference over your T2499?

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My T2499 loaded with full gear and full fresh water (I have about 3 camps I have to haul water to) weighs in about 6800#. The T310SR empty is around 7,249# with battery and full propane. My Suburban is rated at 16,000# GCWR and I was at a about at 15,000# with the truck and tools I had in the back. Yes I knew it was there as I know my T2499 is there.

On the interstates the Burb did well. I only towed at 55 with this trailer and I only go 60 with the smaller one. 7% grade was not beyond the truck. The TC was locked and pulled down to 50 mph turning 2600rpm in 3rd gear on that 7% grade. When I reached almost the top she down shifted to 2nd for a short while until I crested.

If I put another 1,000# gear in the TT and redo that same hill, I'm sure it will not be a towing combo for me.

Doing about 20 miles getting out of camp on Rt 30 to Breeze wood was enough to show me, this setup will not work out west.

These 2 pics on Rt 30 do not do justice to what that slalom course was. It is not for the faint TV. It was 2nd and 1st gear down hill and only using brakes when I had to. The road signs where there for a purpose, slow down going down hill.





Any one towing in this area of PA needs lot's of torque and plenty of tranny cooler for any camper over 6000#. It’s not just that one hill, it is the 10 to 15 hills one after another that can get ya.

As far as the feel, the TT towed well. I was more nervous the first 20 to 25 miles until I was out of town and use to the way the TT reacted and me to it. I spent a lot of time at the dealer myself setting the WD and the DC so it was perfect before I left. And I'm glad I did.

I was cautious and was ready for more push and pull on the TV. But it really did not push me around that much. Again in this unloaded case, my TV was still heavier then the TT. I believe this and being extra cautious to stay out of the wind suck zones kept things in check.

I do not want to mislead any one. This TV/TT combo will not be the long term setup. My goal was to get it home and in time work on the camper and TV. The opportunity presented itself and I was fortunate enough to be on the right forum, know the right people and in the right place at the right time with a dealer wanting to unload inventory. I guess it all worked out all right… .

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To all of our Sunline Club friends, thanks for your kind thoughts and warm welcoming on our new to us camper.

The camper is at the house now, just wanting to get all cleaned up. I sanitized the water system on the way home from Cowans Gap and last night. Cindy was inside cleaning already today. We can’t yet totally move in, but will make a few light weight weekend trips to enjoy the new coach.

Thanks

John and Cindy

PS Will keep you posted on the mod’s as they come up. I still have a bunch on the T2499 I never posted… Sounds like a winter catch up thing some cold Saturday.
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Hi John,

Thanks for taking the time to snap the pictures and share them with us. She’s a beauty, you and Cindy have to be so excited.

Your pictures of Rt. 30 and your statement “It is not for the faint TV.” is just a small taste of what you can expect when you head out west.

Here are some pictures from Powder River Pass on Rt. 16 heading from Buffalo, WY to the East entrance of Yellowstone. I was informed that this pass had the least grade than any other and was the best route in from the east. It was still a white knuckle drive with the TV we had at the time. It was keeping the gas fully floored and in low gear all the way up and low gear breaking all the way down. The total drive was probably about 35 miles that took over an hour to drive it. I can't wait to try the same route with our 2500HD D/A. The drive should be a lot more enjoyable

Pictures at the top of the pass, needed to give the TV a well earned rest.




And a picture Mary snapped on the way down. The cross on the side of the hill was very fitting for what I was mumbling all the way up and down .


And these show some pictures heading out toward the North entrance of Yellowstone. Nothings more scary that having a big 5ver heading for you and there’s nothing but air on your right. Mary had the worst of it, sitting on the passenger’s side and no guard rails on the side of the road . She kept saying, “Tom your getting too close to the side!!


Nothing like having a bridge hanging off the side of a mountain


We ended up replacing all front brakes and rotors after this trip .


We should organize a Sunline Caraventure for a trip out west .

Have fun with your mods, can’t wait to hear and see what you’ll be doing.
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Your new trailer is a beauty inside and out. Like the old saying, a picture is worth a thousand words. While Rt. 30 is a scenic drive, you would have had a much easier drive by heading north 14 miles to the Willow Hill exchange on the PA turnpike: It's fairly flat the whole way. I'm glad the deal worked out for you and the drive home was enjoyable.
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I am glad my wife does not check these posts out. If she saw the pictures of your 'new' trailer, I am sure she would have me looking for one.

Great looking trailer! Enjoy...


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