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Old 08-27-2007, 06:50 PM   #1
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No quality like Sunline

We where at a local fair on Sunday,and the dealer we bought our first Sunline from had a few Sunlines set up. We spent a good amount of time talking, and they said since Sunline went out of business, they have been looking for a brand to take it's place. It's been almost a year now, and they still haven't found anything they feel is worth selling. Sunline was the only travel trailer they sold. Also told me they have the resources to have anything replaced on a Sunline Coach.
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Old 08-28-2007, 11:07 AM   #2
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Re: No quality like Sunline

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Also told me they have the resources to have anything replaced on a Sunline Coach.
You may want to post the name of the dealer in case someone needs help that we can't assist them with!

Just a thought!
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There was more to Sunline then the quality. They had unique different layouts and extras inside that is hard to duplicate in other brands.

Now that most all hope of the original Sunline is fading into the distance sunset I have been looking at what brand would I go with some day to replace mine? If that day ever comes.

I know I went thru about 20 brands before I ended up with mine in 2004. And now after owning one and camping in one, trying to find a replacement of the same high end quality and features at a fair price is becoming more complex.

So far in my recent search, Artic Fox by Northwood Mfg. is about the only one in the same league. The Nash by Northwood Mfg. is also nice but still the Sunline and the Artic Fox are a step up.

SunnyBrook use to build the Titian TT. Now this year they have stopped making their high end TT in the Titian line. The Sunset Creek model is filling the SunnyBrook TT line and the high end Titian is only offered in a 5th wheel. I was camping last weekend with a buddy who had a 2004 SunnyBrook Titian and he was at a show where they asked the factory rep why they stopped making the high end TTís? They said last year they only sold a total of 31 Titian TTís and to tie up that much effort to not sell, forced them to discontinue that line. It seems no one wanted to pay the high end price for quality in a TT.

Jaycoís no longer has the Designer series in the TT line and the Eagle line now dropped to 3 models for 2008. They just dropped the 4th one about 3 weeks ago from the Eagle line up to only leave 3.

After looking and we come back and sit in our Sunline, we continue to say, wow we cannot part with this as we have not found anything better yet.

You can tell real quick which presetn day brands are made with the higher quality in them just looking in the kitchen. Look at the ceiling line and see how the cabinets come up against the ceiling. Is there the little seam strip there? It takes longer to add that seam strip.

Next pull out a cabinet draw. Are all 4 sides Vanier board or are they rough plywood?

Are there 4 drawers or 3 drawers of cabinets near the sink? It takes more time to make the 4th draw.

Look for particle board. Especially in the shelves and dinette seats. Sunline prided themselves on no partial board.

Next walk in the bath room. Does it have a china Toilet or plastic? What is the medicine cabinet made out of? Wood or plastic?

Look at the windows. Can you open them all? About the only non opening window Sunline offered was in the front window over the LP tanks.

Look to see if they offer table and chairs in place of the dinette? For some reason, only the higher end TT makers offer table and chairs as an option.

Look at the cargo hole doors. Are they large and the full size of the cargo hole or just small little things with a big hole inside. Most all Sunline used the larger access doors to fill the space in side. A lot easier to get big things in and out.

The warranty. Sunline seemed to be unique with the 2 year on appliances and 3 year on the TT. Even those who use to offer 2 year, some have now dropped back to 1 year.

The newer Solaris models had standard features most only inlcude as options or just do not offer.

The list goes on and getís deeper but if you can do a quick figure where you are by these basics things.

And the factory after the sale support Sunline had was truly 2nd to none. In all my years in industry I have never found a company so responsive to their customer, just for asking.

I hope some day that same Sunline company combination comes back together, but until then, well Iíll just keep looking and coming back to ours and look at it and say, gee how will we replace all these features we now have. If our T2499 was about 3 feet longer and had full time table and chairs, we would be all set.

If you want a 5th wheel, there are lotís of options, but TTís seem limited.

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JohnB, You have GOT to be an engineer Those are exactly what my DH does when we look at TTs, and we looked at exactly the same brands you did and came to the same conclusions. The only one you don't mention is the BigFoot, which passes all his tests with flying colors. The test it doesn't pass is the price test LOL. (along with the top of the line Classic Airstream which also fails the price test of course) Our conclusion is quickly becoming that moving up to a larger used Sunline in good condition is the way to go.
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JohnB, You have GOT to be an engineer Those are exactly what my DH does when we look at TTs, and we looked at exactly the same brands you did and came to the same conclusions. The only one you don't mention is the BigFoot, which passes all his tests with flying colors. The test it doesn't pass is the price test LOL. (along with the top of the line Classic Airstream which also fails the price test of course) Our conclusion is quickly becoming that moving up to a larger used Sunline in good condition is the way to go.
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Uh Oh Does it come thru that bad.... I guess it takes the DW of one to recognize one. Yes, I have been accused of being associated with that profession before. Generally when something does not seem to fit right or they canít get it apart. What was that darn engineer thinking of who built this thingÖ. Hind site is always 20/20 .

I did look at Big Foot on the web. What they list on features does seem to rank up there. However their floor plans of medium to larger campers is not there yet unless I missed them.

And the Airstream, well Iím not into that movement just yet.

We are into the rear living room area layoutís which is what prompted the T2499 we have on top of the quality.

Good luck in your search. If Sunline had the exact layout in a 04 to 07 layout a litte longer then the T2499, we might be looking for a good used one too now before they get any older.

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Old 08-29-2007, 09:03 PM   #6
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You guys are really thinking out the future! If every Sunline in the world vanished into thin air, I think I'd just stop camping all together! It just wouldn't be the same.

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JohnB, I agree that BigFoot's floorplans are lacking. They're coming out with a new 25' plan with the full rear bath, mid kitchen with dinette and sofa, and front bedroom. I think it's going to be really narrow through the center. They're bringing it to the Hershey RV show that we plan to attend mid Sept. Their largest 3000 series unit has a rear living room but it is really heavy and expensive. THe ones we've seen have been constructed to perfection, but you're paying for that. I wondered what happened to the Sunnybrook Titan - thanks for the info on that. I like the Airstream 28' model but you have to go to the top of the line for the interior construction to be impressive, and they are way beyond what we want to pay. Hence our used Sunline conclusion.
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Their largest 3000 series unit has a rear living room but it is really heavy and expensive. THe ones we've seen have been constructed to perfection, but you're paying for that.
Pam, I just went and looked. I missed that rear living layout.... I did not scroll down on the layout screen enough.

DW just saw it and says, nope. She does not go for the round table and and no couch. And we actaully want the door in the middle if possibe. Saw a FR Sandpiper that way, great layout, but if they would of just took the time to finish the unit out better. Nope not for us.

Looked at the weights. WOW, for a 29 foot camper weighing in a 7,338# dry, yup it's a heavy one. WOW.

Happy searching.

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