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Old 10-20-2010, 07:52 PM   #21
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You where typing when I was typing.... Your T stat, an Atwood is different.
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H'mm I'll look and be back. This should not be this hard.

What year is your camper? On edit: OK I see it is a 2005. Odd you have that T stat. Sunline must of changed something as I thought they still used the Dometic unit.

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Nope it does not look like that It looks like this
The rig is plugged in to my house

I am sure what you mean here "change over regulator is pointing to the tank you turned on"

There is a large red knob by the propane tanks that is turned to "ON"

Facing the rig, I opened the plastic top with the tanks and there is a L shaped lever that is pointed towards or flipped to the left



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Does your thermostat look like this? The thing that says Duo therm on it?



If so to turn the furnace on

  • Turn one at least 1 LP tank.
  • Make sure the change over regulator is pointing to the tank you turned on.
  • Make sure the power is on the camper or at least that the battery is turned on. It runs on 12 Volts DC.
  • Make sure the "Fan" is on "Auto"
  • Then slide down the switch that says "System" to the "heat" position.
  • Slide the temperature slider to a temp hotter then it is in the camper.

The furnace should start. If your thermostate does not look like that take a pic and post

Hope this helps

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Nope it does not look like that It looks like this
The rig is plugged in to my house

I am sure what you mean here "change over regulator is pointing to the tank you turned on"

There is a large red knob by the propane tanks that is turned to "ON"

Facing the rig, I opened the plastic top with the tanks and there is a L shaped lever that is pointed towards or flipped to the left
A large red knob?? H'mm maybe some one painted the LP tank shut off valve red. Or you have something different.

See here for the auto change over regulator http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f7...ned-10560.html

And yes the black lever would point to the tank you 1st started with and have open.

That T stat, I'm having a bit of a time finding the cut sheet on the web. Can find the furnace, just not the T stat, yet.

If you can by chance take a pic of the top of the T stat looking kind of down on top of the on/off slide handle I may see some trick you have to do to slide it. It may be by strange chance you have to gently push the lever toward the wall then slide. It might have a slide lock on it.

This is odd in a 2005 Sunline you have that T stat. Unless you AC unit is not ducted air in that small of a camper and as such it has the AC control up in the ceiling on the AC unit. Learn something new every day here on SOC.

I know there are T1950 owners on here that must of had the same thing.

I'll keep searching for the Atwood cut sheet.

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We have the same unit as you and our thermostat is the same. It is hard to push the on off switch. When we push it a little to the left it seems to snap in place. It does not slide easy. Then we set the temperature on the bottom of the thermostat.
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You are right as the AC is not ducted in a T 1950 and you adjust the controls on the AC unit itself. I wished it was ducted as we cannot adjust the AC to a comfortable level and seem to have to turn it on and off too much.
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A large red knob?? H'mm maybe some one painted the LP tank shut off valve red. Or you have something different.

See here for the auto change over regulator http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f7...ned-10560.html

And yes the black lever would point to the tank you 1st started with and have open.

That T stat, I'm having a bit of a time finding the cut sheet on the web. Can find the furnace, just not the T stat, yet.

If you can by chance take a pic of the top of the T stat looking kind of down on top of the on/off slide handle I may see some trick you have to do to slide it. It may be by strange chance you have to gently push the lever toward the wall then slide. It might have a slide lock on it.

This is odd in a 2005 Sunline you have that T stat. Unless you AC unit is not ducted air in that small of a camper and as such it has the AC control up in the ceiling on the AC unit. Learn something new every day here on SOC.

I know there are T1950 owners on here that must of had the same thing.

I'll keep searching for the Atwood cut sheet.

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Hi John,

I'm wondering, is she maybe referring to the battery cutoff switch being on as a switch for the propane?

Yes, it would be a non-ducted AC on a 1950. I believe that was the case for all years of it. I believe everything 2363 and under were non-ducted models, so the thermostat would be a simple furnace-only unit.

I think the slider switch is just a slider to one side. I broke the one on my first '94 because I tried to pull on it and not slide. Ended up replacing it... On the newer model Hydroflame t-stat (the white one), the top lever snapped to the left. It seemed like the pivot point wasn't that far down because it seemed to do more turning than sliding if I recall. No, the red paint and label didn't come with it, kind of a live and learn type of thing, after ya break it once, it doesn't need to happen again...

On the older t-stat (the brown one), the lever was on the bottom and snapped to the right in a similar fashion.

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This may help, maybe

Joan's T stat is an Atwood 38453 mechanical thermostat. Can buy one for $17.00 And better can buy a Hunter digital at Wal-mart for like $20.00

I found the T stat in the Atwood master service manual. Still cannot find a cut sheet on it.

The On-off switch on top is not a slider per say it is a rocker pivoting switch. To the "right" is OFF and pivot to the "left" is On.



Mokid's report is it flips hard. Can't tell that from here but I know some of the older ones on PU's like that flip really hard too.

So I learned about the ducted air on the smaller units. Learn something new here every day on SOC!!

Hope this helps

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I'm wondering, is she maybe referring to the battery cutoff switch being on as a switch for the propane?

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Joan said: There is a large red knob by the propane tanks that is turned to "ON"

My mind jumped to the tank knob but she did state "by the propane tank" not on it.

And yes her 2005 would have the battery cutoff switch on the A frame header. Looks like this and it needs to be "ON"



So the red knob mystery may be solved....
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So I learned about the ducted air on the smaller units.
I believe somewhere in the older brochures, like 1996-1998ish maybe, they specified that anything 25' and under had non-ducted and anything over had ducted. I believe at the time the 2475 was non-ducted and the 2553 was. If the 2475 was, then for sure the 2370 was non-ducted.
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Yup that's it....so how can I get the "rocker pivot" to move? It's all the way to the right, "OFF" Is there a "method" to like pull then push to left or something? Simply trying to push it to the left like a slide does not work

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This may help, maybe

Joan's T stat is an Atwood 38453 mechanical thermostat. Can buy one for $17.00 And better can buy a Hunter digital at Wal-mart for like $20.00

I found the T stat in the Atwood master service manual. Still cannot find a cut sheet on it.

The On-off switch on top is not a slider per say it is a rocker pivoting switch. To the "right" is OFF and pivot to the "left" is On.



Mokid's report is it flips hard. Can't tell that from here but I know some of the older ones on PU's like that flip really hard too.

So I learned about the ducted air on the smaller units. Learn something new here every day on SOC!!

Hope this helps

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Joan said: There is a large red knob by the propane tanks that is turned to "ON"

My mind jumped to the tank knob but she did state "by the propane tank" not on it.

And yes her 2005 would have the battery cutoff switch on the A frame header. Looks like this and it needs to be "ON"



So the red knob mystery may be solved....
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I do not know. It could be that vintage of thermostat has that hard working feature. If no one responds back with a "method" here is a place I know will help you.

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The service group is in Rockford IL. Central states time. If you call the number on the Atwood web site and state you need some technical help with a model 38453 Thermostat they most likely will switch you to customer service. They may know a trick.

I will say this, Atwood technical customer service is hands down top rate. They have a very satisfied customer with me. I had a tech question on one of there furnaces and the first tech leader could not answer as he never heard of that problem and they switched me direct to the engineer in the manufacturing plant to answer my question. No run around, just top customer service.

If you call, they will help.

And out of curiosity, let us know how you make out.
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Thank you! Some how the service guy at the dealership could manage it?

However if it's that's hard to push/pull perhaps I would just be better off replacing ti with your suggestion, Hunter digital at Wal-mart for like $20.00


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I do not know. It could be that vintage of thermostat has that hard working feature. If no one responds back with a "method" here is a place I know will help you.

RV Components, Gas Appliances, Marine Products, Chassis Components, Seating Systems, Windows and Doors from Atwood Mobile

The service group is in Rockford IL. Central states time. If you call the number on the Atwood web site and state you need some technical help with a model 38453 Thermostat they most likely will switch you to customer service. They may know a trick.

I will say this, Atwood technical customer service is hands down top rate. They have a very satisfied customer with me. I had a tech question on one of there furnaces and the first tech leader could not answer as he never heard of that problem and they switched me direct to the engineer in the manufacturing plant to answer my question. No run around, just top customer service.

If you call, they will help.

And out of curiosity, let us know how you make out.
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Thank you, I'll try it tomorrow. I am giving the inside a good vacuuming then cleaning EVERYTHING with bleach water and I am taking the mattress to be cleaned. I plan to store it at my house instead of leaving in the rig during the winter...then winterizing


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WOW that was difficult. I had to use my key and push forward hard to get it to move and turn on the fan. I hope I can turn it off easier

Should not move that hard.....wonder if I could use a Q-Tip with some silicone or WD 40 to lubricate it and loosen it?

Anyways getting toasty now, today will be spend cleaning

Thank you for all your help

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I do not know. It could be that vintage of thermostat has that hard working feature. If no one responds back with a "method" here is a place I know will help you.

RV Components, Gas Appliances, Marine Products, Chassis Components, Seating Systems, Windows and Doors from Atwood Mobile

The service group is in Rockford IL. Central states time. If you call the number on the Atwood web site and state you need some technical help with a model 38453 Thermostat they most likely will switch you to customer service. They may know a trick.

I will say this, Atwood technical customer service is hands down top rate. They have a very satisfied customer with me. I had a tech question on one of there furnaces and the first tech leader could not answer as he never heard of that problem and they switched me direct to the engineer in the manufacturing plant to answer my question. No run around, just top customer service.

If you call, they will help.

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Joan, the cover of that thermostat should just pop off. There may even be a notch or tab for that. The diagram above is pretty easy to read so if you remove the cover, you should be able to determine what's making that little lever stick. And it'll be a lot easier to lube it up. You are probably better off using a silicone lube on the mechanical pivot point of that rocker/slide switch.
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I used some silicone spray and that loosened it up!

When cleaning the rig I think I am pretty safe in saying that it wasn't used much at all. There wasn't much cleaning to do but I wanted to wipe everything down with bleach and some Totally Awesome. Most of the storage compartments had never been used.

I also found a receipt under the mattress for gas at a Speedway in Caledonia, MI with a woman's name on it. The rig was purchased at a General RV in Wayland, MI

I believe it was owned by this woman whose name is on the receipt. Either way, she didn't use the rig much!

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