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06-26-2012, 01:37 AM
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Is it legal?
Hey my friends,
I just purchased an used 2001 T2975 from eBay today and going to pick it up tomorrow. I'm a freshman to travel trailer and very excited. My wife asked me a question tonight that I really couldn't answer: "Honey, is it legal when you towing the tt tomorrow while I am sitting inside?"...I guess it is illegal because there is no seatbelt in tt. Am I right?
Looking forward to learning from you! Thank you!
Eric
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06-26-2012, 02:03 AM
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Eric, I suspect you are correct, partly. Some states may allow it, but I don't think it would be very many and I'm not sure where they are.
Even if it were legal, it would be very bouncy back there. TTs don't have shocks.
I think the big reason why it isn't allowed isn't because of a lack of seatbelts though, I think it has to do with the coupling style. I have heard in some places, it is legal to ride in a fifth wheel, but not a travel trailer. This is the same type of thing how you can pull a small bumper pull trailer behind a fifth wheel, but you can't pull that same bumper pull trailer behind a bumper pull travel trailer.
So I would recommend she not ride back there, even if it were legal, especially if you are traveling on bumpy back roads.
Jon
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06-26-2012, 06:01 AM
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Eric, I rode in the back when my husband was towing the TT from the side lawn to the driveway.. maybe a hundred feet or so. I was bounced around and ready to get OUT. I often wondered if any unsuspecting folks tried it and found themselves in panic mode. I see why all of the drawers and cupboards are made the way they are!! You'd not believe the noise and crashing back there.
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06-26-2012, 06:03 AM
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Try your DOT state web site I'm pretty sure most states and all of Canada do not allow riders in the camper.
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06-26-2012, 06:10 AM
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Why ride back there?
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06-26-2012, 07:14 AM
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In Missouri and many other states it is legal to ride in a Truck Camper, Fifth Wheel and Travel Trailer while going down the road. I have seen it many times here but I think it is very unsafe. We saw a lady and 3 kids riding in a 5th wheel one time and I asked a State Trooper if it was legal and he said yes, but very dumb. Here is a link where you may find your answer:
http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm
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06-26-2012, 10:44 AM
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not legal in NYS except in a motorhome
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06-30-2012, 12:35 AM
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Thank you all for sharing your knowledge! I was told by the PA salesman that as long as riders in TT have cellular phone or walkie talkie to contact driver then you're fine. Well, different states have different laws...
Eric
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06-30-2012, 11:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric
... I was told by the PA salesman ...
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Often times salespeople are not fully versed in the field in which they are selling.
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06-30-2012, 11:44 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gene
Often times salespeople are not fully versed in the field in which they are selling.
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x2. There are so many who just tell you what you want to hear.
But regardless, even if it were legal, I would certainly want a communication device. I read I think on the Tin Can Tourists Facebook group a couple weeks ago about a lady who wanted to ride in their trailer for a little while because she was tired. She didn't take a communication device of any sort. She said it was so bouncy back there that she ended up on the bed, face down, holding onto it and the cabinets for dear life. It sounded like that lasted for a couple hours until the driver pulled off to check on her. Granted it's possible to modify a Sunline to give a better ride back there, like you can add shocks, rubber equalizers, etc., but it still probably won't be like a car.
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1997 T-2653 Blue Denim, #5471
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Past Sunlines: '97 T-2653 #5089, '94 T-2251, '86 T-1550, '94 T-2363, '98 T-270SR
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06-30-2012, 12:41 PM
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riding in the rear
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Originally Posted by Jim-Bev-2363
Why ride back there?
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I agree with Jim (and Sunline Fan),
Why would you? The dealer could have been telling you what you wanted to hear and also, even if its legal. What if your wife get bumped too hard, hits her head and cannot communicate to you the risk more and severe injury as a result from not getting out due to the radio dropping or some other reason she cannot communicate to you like something as simple as a dead battery.
It doesn't take much for it to be rough even on what you might think is a smooth riding surface/road way. It truly is not a very safe or good idea. I don't think.
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06-30-2012, 05:58 PM
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I would bet my life on something a salesman said. I'm sure his commission and dedication is enuff to guarantee my safety.
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06-30-2012, 08:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim-Bev-2363
I would bet my life on something a salesman said. I'm sure his commission and dedication is enuff to guarantee my safety.
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06-30-2012, 09:18 PM
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Give this link a look.
I myself would never ride in the back of any tow behind. Plain an simple it is not safe.
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07-01-2012, 06:07 AM
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In Maine you can't even ride in the bed of a pickup and every one must have seat belts. Campers are made to be light not strong very little chance it would survive even a small accident.
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07-01-2012, 06:13 AM
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If seats do not have seatbelts then they are not meant to ride in and can get drivers tickets. Click-it or ticket.
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07-01-2012, 07:43 AM
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Two words for the salesman that says it is OK to ride back there. "Hop in".
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07-01-2012, 10:07 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellow Yellow
Two words for the salesman that says it is OK to ride back there. "Hop in".
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I bet that would change his opinion real fast!!!
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