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Old 10-12-2017, 04:27 AM   #1
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And so it begins. Off to Massey's Landing, Delaware

No more fooling around with play towing the T-1950 around the neighborhood. S**t gets real on Thursday, October 19th. Over a hundred miles and two hours away from home to The Resort at Massey's Landing in Delaware near Rehoboth, returning on Sunday, the 22nd.

It will be our first ever camping trip for us in a TT as well as the first for the 1950 for us. I'm now in countdown mode with a punchlist of things to do (one of which is to create a punchlist of things to do! ) and I'm in a holding pattern for the next three days while I go to 'work' at my retirement part time job (I was getting fat sitting on the couch). Since this is our first TT, we had NOTHING that we needed other than a garden hose that I will be using for the black tank cleaning (more on that below) and I have been in hunter/gatherer mode for the past month getting the hitch, surge protection, city water hose/regulator, etc.

The heavy lifting is done, though (I hope) and the remaining tasks are not mission critical but I'd like to have everything buttoned up if I can.

Then there's more driver training to do. I need to practice backing and parking and so forth having never done this in my life.

Currently, I need to:

TV
  • Oil and filter change.
  • Add brake fluid.
  • Recharge AC
  • Clean and oil the air filter (K&N).

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  • Install sway control.
  • Install black tank spray washer.
  • Install the replacement OEM door handle.
  • Install the new Lend-A-Hand® retractable hand rail.
  • Get a tire inflator (or test the tiny one that's currently in the car).
  • Fill the second propane tank.
  • Test fire the range/water heater/fridge.
  • Buy a 10 pack of Camco® leveling blocks from WalMart.
  • Buy two more rubber chocks from Harbor Freight.
  • Buy a metal (brass?) Y splitter for the city water bib.
  • Buy a 90° brass elbow for the camper city water connection.
  • Buy a 30 amp extension cord.
  • Pull the 30 amp cord out to see just how long it really is.
  • Organize the baggage compartments.
  • Finish laying the shelf lining.
  • Find a way to restrain the coffee cups from jumping over the cupboard ledge,
  • Paint the Command® hooks to match the cabinetry. Srsly. Don't ask.
  • Duct tape the mini-blind wands (Thanks, Janalee!) or figure something with zip ties.
  • Wash the sofa blanket (came with the camper to cover the splitting cushion seam).
  • Try to melt/mend the lug nut cover that I split trying to remove it the first time I took it off so that it fits snugly again. Never saw one before and I didn't understand. I bought one from Leo's but it was too large for the nut.
  • Get spare baggage keys.
  • Create an Arrival/Departure punchlist to help me remember everything since it's my first time. Help here would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm using YouTube as my reference source for now.

And so, serious to silly but I will have four full days off starting from Sunday to Wednesday to get 'er done. Let's see how I do.

Feel free to ask the obvious because what's obvious to you may not be to me so I'd rather admit that I missed something than leave without it. The nearest WalMart to the campground is 20 minutes away so it shouldn't be TOO bad.

You guys have been awesome. Thanks for all of your advice and assistance.
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Do you have a sewer hose adapter/donut? The part that screws into the campground sewer inlet? If you don’t already have one you’ll need it.

I have a set of the lug nut covers I don’t need. PM your name and address and I’ll send them to you if you like.

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Just a thought. If you need to add brake fluid to the TV, it might be time for new brakes. Give them a quick inspection. Also, don't turn HW heater on without water in it. Bring extra lengths of drinking water hose and sewer hose. And spare click lighters, especially if you plan on using the oven. If's a PIA to light the pilot. I have a tank sprayer in my tt, but I still prefer the habd wand, especially for the last cleaning of the season. A least I now have a window in the bathroom I can open. Last trailer, I had to drag the hose inside the length of the trailer through the door. If you have one of those wooden sheds, you may already have spare baggage key. They were the same key in my case. Opened my neighbor's shed too, lol. Finally, look at the size of your cooler, double it, fill it with beer and ice (and some wine), and have a great time. Autumn is a great time to camp in this area. Anything you forget, you can usually get at the camp store or the local big box store.
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Do you have a sewer hose adapter/donut? The part that screws into the campground sewer inlet? If you don’t already have one you’ll need it.
Yes on the donut. It came as part of a set along with two 10 foot sewer hoses and other assorted bits. I heard that I need to find a rock to sit on top of it though, for just in case.
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Just a thought. If you need to add brake fluid to the TV, it might be time for new brakes. Give them a quick inspection.
Brakes are good from a recent check.

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Also, don't turn HW heater on without water in it.
I just want to know that it lights. Should I still put water in...ya know, never mind. I'll put some in regardless just so that I know what I'm doing when I get there. Good call out!

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Bring extra lengths of drinking water hose and sewer hose.
I have 2 brand new Camco 25 foot hoses. I'll bring both.

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And spare click lighters, especially if you plan on using the oven. If's a PIA to light the pilot.
Three click lighters are already loaded up and ready to make fire.

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I have a tank sprayer in my tt, but I still prefer the habd wand, especially for the last cleaning of the season. A least I now have a window in the bathroom I can open. Last trailer, I had to drag the hose inside the length of the trailer through the door.
After much consideration, I had decided against the hand wand but I can see its value as an end of season item. I'll mull on that some more.

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If you have one of those wooden sheds, you may already have spare baggage key. They were the same key in my case. Opened my neighbor's shed too, lol.
Negative on the spare keys. I tried the one for my truck cap but no joy. I forgot to ask about them when I was in the RV store yesterday, dang it.

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Finally, look at the size of your cooler, double it, fill it with beer and ice (and some wine), and have a great time. Autumn is a great time to camp in this area. Anything you forget, you can usually get at the camp store or the local big box store.
Oddly, I just picked up an extra cooler this week. Sounds like a plan.

Thanks, folks. Couldn't do it without you. The list grows!
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Hi Dig,

I'll add a few things not yet mentioned.

First to clarify on the hot water heater, your 2003 camper is new enough it may have the 120 volt "electric" option to run on. Along with a gas mode. Do not turn the "electric" option on when there is no water in the heater. It can and will burn out the electric element in seconds with no water in the heater. On gas mode, a fast toggle of the burner can be survived with no water but this is not a great thing to do.

The 2003 campers vintage had a pain in the neck rocker switch on the back of the heater to turn it on and off when on electric. There is also a 15 amp circuit breaker in the converter box that needs to be on for it to work. The prior owner may have turned the breaker off instead of dealing with the pain in the neck switch. OR they got tired of the rocker switch and wired in separate easier to get to switch.

Now to things to do before heading out on the camping trip.

1. Camper tire pressure. Before leaving the house, check the tire pressure on the camper and the spare tire. It needs to be at max cold air pressure as stamped on the tire before you start towing. Going 15 minutes down the road to the gas station will change the pressure. If you have load range C tires, this should align with 50psi but check the tire side wall. This is a very important thing to do.

2. Truck tire pressure. The truck is an experiment in tire pressure pending handling, but a place to start is the front and rear tires (spare too) need to be at the door sticker tire pressure listing. If you have soggy handling of the rig after being at door sticker, then let's talk on next steps.

3. Something to add to your pile of camper "stuff", a 13/16" socket, extension and torque wrench capable going to 100 ft lb's of torque. If on the road you have to change a tire, you need the torque wrench when putting the tire back on. And then there is a 20 to 50 mile check and 100 mile check of the lug nuts once you have changed the tire. By the 3rd time, the nuts usually stop moving. The Harbor Freight 1/2" drive torque wrench works well for this need.

4. While not a mandate for your first trip, do you have a small pack of fuses to fit the size in your converter?

Most important, have fun!!! Keep your cool, something is not going to go right, but you can and will get through it. And each trip after this, you will be adding something you forgot. After a year or more, you might start taking stuff out....

Heads up, camping in the Sunny is addictive! You will be looking forward to doing this over again and again... Have a good trip and let us know how it came out. And remember, we like pics!!

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Currently, I need to:

TT
  • Install sway control.
  • Install black tank spray washer.
  • Install the replacement OEM door handle.
  • Install the new Lend-A-Hand® retractable hand rail.
  • Get a tire inflator (or test the tiny one that's currently in the car).
  • Fill the second propane tank.
  • Test fire the range/water heater/fridge.
  • Buy a 10 pack of Camco® leveling blocks from WalMart.
  • Buy two more rubber chocks from Harbor Freight.
  • Buy a metal (brass?) Y splitter for the city water bib.
  • Buy a 90° brass elbow for the camper city water connection.
  • Buy a 30 amp extension cord.
  • Pull the 30 amp cord out to see just how long it really is.
  • Organize the baggage compartments.
  • Finish laying the shelf lining.
  • Find a way to restrain the coffee cups from jumping over the cupboard ledge,
  • Paint the Command® hooks to match the cabinetry. Srsly. Don't ask.
  • Duct tape the mini-blind wands (Thanks, Janalee!) or figure something with zip ties.
  • Wash the sofa blanket (came with the camper to cover the splitting cushion seam).
  • Try to melt/mend the lug nut cover that I split trying to remove it the first time I took it off so that it fits snugly again. Never saw one before and I didn't understand. I bought one from Leo's but it was too large for the nut.
  • Get spare baggage keys.
  • Create an Arrival/Departure punchlist to help me remember everything since it's my first time. Help here would be GREATLY appreciated. I'm using YouTube as my reference source for now.
Ditto on the black tank wand from others, it's very helpful to have!

Baggage door keys are CH751, or 751CH (same thing), they are readily available pre-cut at an RV dealer because they are that common. Just tell them you need that key. Double check to make sure your existing key has that number stamped on it, just in case someone changed them.

If your entry door lockset is FIC, you can order more keys for it using the code on your existing key, direct from FIC. The local dealer probably has blanks, but it'll be more expensive to do that and get them cut vs. buying them direct pre-cut.

You might want to think about a water filter too. Some campground water is quite nasty. Just watch out when you assemble, that the regulator doesn't interfere with anything. Last time I went out, the guy next to me had a water regulator just before a filter. The regulator valve protruded out of the housing and down the line of flow, by design. That valve ran into the inner parts of the filter housing at the connection, and caused it to twist inside, which then caused the water pressure to drop and the whole water pipe supply up to there to rattle. They left for the day, so I and a neighbor went over to investigate because it was really loud and annoying. Simply switched the two parts around (regulator and filter) and the valve could once again protrude into the hose normally and quietly. I never gave this a second thought until I saw this happen. He had the blue Camco plastic regulator.

Also I'd consider a clear extension piece/elbow for your sewer hose, if the kit didn't come with. Sure it's nasty to look at, luckily it flows quickly, but it really lets you know when the tank is clean, and how well the previous owner took care of the tank.

I've never measured my 30 amp cord, but it's somewhere around 20'. I've had to use my extension cord a lot- haven't needed another city water hose in a long time.
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Yes on the donut. It came as part of a set along with two 10 foot sewer hoses and other assorted bits. I heard that I need to find a rock to sit on top of it though, for just in case.



You shouldn’t need a rock. I believe Massey’s Landing has the pvc sewer pipe with a threaded cap. Probably one of the pieces that came with your kit has that adapter and then your sewer hose elbow will fit snugly into that.
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Dig, When I got my first camper I had spent most of my time doing tent camping. The only thing I did to go on our first camping trip was to treat it like any camping trip on the ground but loaded into the camper. Food, drinks, clothes. I had a small toolbox in the tow vehicle with simple hand tools. We had done the drive around the neighborhoods and away we went. Big adventure that turned out just fine.

As time went on I worried about 'things". First trip we used holding tanks and learned how hoses and fittings worked while in the campground. I learned that other campers were some of the nicest, friendliest people you will ever meet and moving from tents to wheeled campers was no different. If you act stranded and confused some helpful soul that has been in the same place will come by soon. By spending time camping instead of worrying about "the camper" we enjoyed trips more.

As time went on I found that small items I thought I needed were available at campground stores. Surprise, surprise! Yes it cost more but this is all part of the camping experience. Walking into a campground store, paying twice for things you could get from Amazon gives incentive to plan at home, before the trip, while in the driveway. Here comes the lists.

Things to keep in the camper so now there is the toolbox in the house, the one in the car and another one in the garage, plus the camper. Things to do before driving away from the house like filling holding tank only part way so I'm not hauling a full tank because I use campground water. Keep some water in the black water tank with chemicals and let the bouncing of the camper clean the tank. Also never travel with full holding tanks, any of them. Have refrigerator running for at least 24 hours before leaving and full of cold stuff. The fuller the better since it seemed to help the fridge. Make sure TV antenna is down when jacks go up. Find secure places for everything and never place anything on the couch, counter or bed when traveling because sooner of later it will hit the floor. Since we came from ground camping where we used sleeping bags we still do use those sleeping bags instead of trying to make the bed with sheets and spreads. A bag and a sheet for covering takes up much less room.

The hardest part of using our TT was learning to not bring everything with us. The wife could leave the cake pans home. Paper plates, red solo cups and plastic utensils with some knives, manual can opener. I could use the car toolbox instead of needing a separate one for the camper. Things that I would do if I had the tools, most times, could wait until we got home instead of taking away from the pleasure of the trip.

But then we use our camper to get away for short trips and not fulltime living so packing can be much different. Hope you enjoy your trip.
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Yep. What Jim-Bev said! I wouldn't spend too much time in the campstore, though. Lots of stuff you want, but don't need. Hard to tell the difference. Lol.
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Thanks for the encouragement and advice folks! I was making great progress on my list in the little time that I had over the weekend but I ran into something of a stumper, today. Maybe you can help.

On the advice of my S-I-L, I bought the Rhino sewer system, only to find out that it doesn't fit easily into the bumper thanks to the bayonet fittings and the elbow won't go at all. I saw a YouTube video where the guy bought an 8 foot vinyl fence post which is 4.5" by 4.5". Brilliant! All of the Rhino hoses and attachments fit! He capped both ends with the fence post caps with vent holes drilled into them.

I spent an hour or so choosing bits and pieces to attach it to the rear bumper but when I got everything home, the fence post was about three quarters of an inch too high and it blocked the rear cargo door from opening. Plan B was to hang it from under the camper frame but the black tank is a little lower than the frame and the stabilizer jacks blocked me from hanging it just in front of the rear bumper.

Plan C calls for it to go just ahead of the wheels in this location.



Is that an issue or should I just use the bumper storage for the hoses and put the (carefully washed) elbow in a zip lock bag under the bed?
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You can get several ratchet straps and strap it to the backside of the bumper. Unless you have a spare attached.
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I’m beginning to believe the Rhino hoses are not the way to go. My daughter had the same problem and we were able to overcome it by grinding part of the plastic off but that shouldn’t be necessary IMO.

My hose and elbow fit fine into my bumper and I imagine most others do as well.
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That's also a way to go. Probably the easiest.
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You can get several ratchet straps and strap it to the backside of the bumper. Unless you have a spare attached.
Yes, there is a spare attached on the rear bumper.

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I’m beginning to believe the Rhino hoses are not the way to go. My daughter had the same problem and we were able to overcome it by grinding part of the plastic off but that shouldn’t be necessary IMO.

My hose and elbow fit fine into my bumper and I imagine most others do as well.
The PO included a standard brown Rhino Flex hose and some gloves (or perhaps forgot about them) in the bumper but there was no attaching hardware. Now that I have stuffed the new Rhinoflex into the bumper sans elbow, I doubt Camping World will take it back but that would be my loss, I guess.

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That's also a way to go. Probably the easiest.
What's a way to go? My Plan C? There's no issue with putting the tube ahead of the wheels? Just trying to clarify.
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