2007 T-1950 solaris w/slideout for sale!

[Paultadv]

I would assume that the tanks are the same size as a T-1950 but I don't know for sure.

[tony17112acst]

Yes, it's a T-195SR. A regular T-1950 is about 3800 pounds but this model is a whopping 4800 pounds; a 1000 pounds heavier for that small sofa slide! Also, the tongue weight is off the charts at over 700 lbs. The 195sr is slightly longer at 22'11" - almost 23 ft.

My wife and I were going to buy the one in at Stoltzfus' 3 years ago, but we found that at 4800 lbs, we could get a LOT more space at that weight. So before you go crazy because only 22 were built, carefully consider other trailers which can have walk-around beds with slides ...and are lighter. I can post a few if anyone is interested. OK, here are 2: KZ Vision V23RLS and the Coachmen Freedom Express 247RKS - both with walk-around beds, same weight, same length (one of them has 2 sofas!).

[tony17112acst]

Originally Posted by Jazzy 1950

When I went to purchase one of these new in late 2007 -- that is when I found out the plant closed. I asked Stoltzfus what was equivalent. Answer??? NOTHING. Which is why I found a 1 year old 2006 and have lovingly hung onto it since then.

Actually the Dutchmen 19FL is a duplicate of the T-1950 (year 2001 I know for sure).
http://www.rvworldinventory.com/2001...-33764/5309443

[apackoftwo]

KZ was usingLippert frames on some models/years, 2010? If I were looking at a KZ I would want one with a BAL Ultraframe. There have been reported problem of weld breaks with the Lippert. I would only buy one made before 2010. Also KZ was bought out by Thor. In the past, Thor has been know to leave the brand alone for 2 or 3 years then they start cost cutting and profit increasing measures which results in a reduce quality product. Another reason to buy an earlier model

Around the campfire, Coachmen does not have a very good reputation for quality and either does Dutchman at least the newer ones. Big companies that pump out trailers at a lower cost, something has to be compromised to get the lower cost

If you really want to know a better trailer to buy other than a Sunline try RV Consumer Group - We Rate RVs

Another thing is a wood frame is a better insulator, does not sweat like aluminum, which can cause condensation in the walls, mold etc and is much easier and less expensive to repair.

There is another site were owners rates their own rvs but I can not find it now,Sunlines were highly rated

[Jazzy 1950]

tony17112acst Yes, it appears you have found a crap Dutchman product with the same layout. Guess what... the T-1950 has solid wood cabinetry. Not fiberboard covered junk as the photos you are showing. Given they were cheap on the cabinetry, I can only assume they were cheap on everything else. Apackoftwo is totally correct. KZ, Coachman, Dutchman --- all inferior to Sunline, and hardly a "duplicate". Yes, the slide in the 195SR takes the overall weight of the rig over what most people want to pull in that length -- sadly, including me, without replacing the tow vehicle. However, getting more slides/length/whatever with these newer "light weight" models for a lower price gets you a watered down, short lived, inferiorly constructed, barely 3 season rig whose pipes are going to freeze the minute it hits 32 and structurally might last you 5 years at best. Thanks, but I'll take my 9 year old totally sound Sunline any day over that.

[tony17112acst]

Actually, I thought he was talking about a floorplan replacement for the T-1950, not the quality of Sunlines. We agree totally with the quality of Sunlines. That's great info on the frames, BTW.

[apackoftwo]

Hi Tony,

I am curious about the Dry Weight figure you stated here for the 195sr. I that what the dealer told you or did he have a brochure that stated the weights? If the 195sr had a Dry Weight of 4,800 What is the GVWR?

On the T-1950, 2075,2299 (23'2") ,2463,2475(hitch weight of 715lbs)2499 (hitch weight of 755) all had a GVWR of 5,500lbs
All of these models had bigger tanks than a T-1950 or 195sr except
the 2475

The stated CCC of my T-1950 is 1,298 the GVWR minus GVW, full water tank and filled propane tanks

So for instance the T-2499 with a GVWR of 5,500 and bigger tanks would have less CCC than the 195sr?

I might be figuring these out wrong, its not my strong suite, maybe JohnB would chip too in

Originally Posted by tony17112acst

Yes, it's a T-195SR. A regular T-1950 is about 3800 pounds but this model is a whopping 4800 pounds; a 1000 pounds heavier for that small sofa slide! Also, the tongue weight is off the charts at over 700 lbs. The 195sr is slightly longer at 22'11" - almost 23 ft.

My wife and I were going to buy the one in at Stoltzfus' 3 years ago, but we found that at 4800 lbs, we could get a LOT more space at that weight. So before you go crazy because only 22 were built, carefully consider other trailers which can have walk-around beds with slides ...and are lighter. I can post a few if anyone is interested. OK, here are 2: KZ Vision V23RLS and the Coachmen Freedom Express 247RKS - both with walk-around beds, same weight, same length (one of them has 2 sofas!).

[Sunline Fan]

Originally Posted by Jazzy 1950

Oh, for Pete's sake..... Please see Sunline Fan comment from 5/31/2012. Total production count 22 (not sure if that includes prototype) of SR-195. 13 identified by VIN at that time.

Total production was 22 plus a proto. Definitely more than 8.

[apackoftwo]

Long time no hear from. How ya doing?

Of course you would know the answer! However, in the scheme of things, only 22 makes this camper very rare. Like a T-2299. How many of those were produced? Or a 257SR? One year production runs but still probably more than 22

Originally Posted by Sunline Fan

Total production was 22 plus a proto. Definitely more than 8.

[Paultadv]

Camper has sold today!