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Old 03-09-2010, 04:35 PM   #1
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T 195SR VS 2007 T-2499

Hello, everyone!
We are Jason and Brent from Michigan. We purchased a 2001 T-1950(used) a few years ago. We, I thought I wanted a bigger trailer so I purchased a flagstaff 831fkbss. I have no issues with my current trailer however, I am wanting to get back into a Sunline. (I guess you can say you don't know what you have until it's gone) It is just the two of us (most of the time) and I am leaning towards the 195SR just for the fact that it has a slide and I did enjoy the 1950. I also like the walk around bed of the T-2499. What are your thoughts.... 195SR or 2499 ... Thanks for your help! I would be pull with a 2008 Chrysler Aspen.
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Old 03-09-2010, 05:09 PM   #2
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I love the T-1950 for the two of us but do like the walkaround bed in the 2499 and 2363. The bed is a compromise for us to have the smaller, lighter, easier to park 1950. I'd love to have the 195sr.

Check this forum's search feature for issues with the frame on the 2499. I could be mistaken but I believe some years had some bent frame issues. You'll see them around May, June, July, 2009 I think.
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Hi Sunline Michigan

Welcome back to longing for a Sunline. You have good taste!

I’ll give you a friendly heads up on your 2 choices and your TV. If I recall correctly the Aspen is like the Durango. And they have 2 motor sizes I think. The 4.7 and the 5.7 Hemi.

We do have some members here in the club towing the T1950SR with a smaller SUV. They can help you with that size TT and your truck on how they do and how far they travel. If you have the 5.7 hemi pulling power should be there, however caution on the loaded tongue weight and if you have a filled back seat and passengers in your truck. My Son In Laws Durango has a 3rd row seat and can hold a qty of people which is cargo to the truck. Rear axle weight could be a problem if you do not watch the weights. So this one is a figuring of where the weights will come out.

See this post where I have been keeping track of actual loaded camper tongue weights. I have collect these myself from Sunline Meet & Greets where folks can get a quick tongue weight check for the shake of a hand and about 30 minutes of quality camper yak time…...
( the weighing takes like 5 minutes… ) This will give you an idea on where you might end up. The T1950SR is different then your prior T1950. And I must add a very nice unit. I was in one at the Buttonwood M & G it I really liked it.

Sunline Camper Actual Loaded Tongue/Pin Weights

There is 1 2007 T1950SR in there. 790# loaded tongue weight. Your truck may be able to handle that as long as you do not have a lot of gear in the truck. To know you will need to do some research on what your rear axle weighs now and the expected adder of the T1950SR.

The T2499, they are listed on that sheet as well and many of them. A very popular floor plan. We use to own one. Beautiful camper. However that floor plan does come with 1 very strong attribute. It loads camping gear forward to the tongue. As you can see the loaded tongue weights for the T2499 range from 850 to 1,200#. The member who had the 850# tongue never put much of anything in the front cargo hole or front bed room. That is just they way they camped. So it is doable. We each have our own stuff…..

However most camper couples had a avg of a 1,000# tongue weight and some like me, went to 1,200#. The 1,000 to 1,200# tongue weights are into heavier truck suspensions then any 1/2 SUV on the market can hold up and be inside the truck ratings if they have much inside the SUV. A properly sized 1/2 ton PU is capable. I started out towing our T2499 with a Chevy Tahoe. It pulled OK other then sucked gas like crazy but pulling was not my issue. It was holding up the tongue weight. We loved the camper too much so the Tahoe had to go. We traded for a used K2500 Suburban and that truck took the T2499 anywhere it wanted to go and could handle the 1,200# tongue and some gear in the back of the truck.

I’m not trying to discourage you, just pass along some things to think thru as now you have choices that are easier. If you want to see how the Aspen sizes up to any of these campers, or others, we are willing to help guide you thru that process so you can make a more informed decision.

Good luck and hope this helps. Again Welcome.

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In relpy to your towing ability:

I tow my T-1950 with a truck that has a 7500# capacity and hardly know it's there.

I used to tow it with a Nissan truck, 6cyl, with a capacity of 5500# and that didn't work too well. I went from 20mpg to 9mpg because it rarely got out of low gear. I spent most of a trip at 4000rpm.

I hope this gives you some reference.
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Old 03-16-2010, 12:09 AM   #5
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Thanks for the info, We have decided to purchase the 195 SR and will be making the trip to Florida to pick it up. After having a 2001 T-1950 I am so looking forward to getting back into a Sunline.

I have spoken to a friend that works at the Dealership. He is saying the Aspen/Durango with a Hemi will have no problems with this trailer. I pulled the 1950 with a jeep commander and it did just fine. I know that the 195 has a heavier tongue weight. (the good news, I will be pulling it home with a 2008 Ram 1500 Hemi....should not be a problem)

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Old 03-18-2010, 06:00 PM   #6
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Jason, we are proud the owners of a 2007 195SR. John measured our tongue weight at The M & G two years ago. It was around #790 lbs. I am using the equalizer brand hitch with #1200 lb bars and it tows real nice. My tow vehicle is a 2003 Toyota 4-runner with a V8 and tow package. My 4-Runner is rated to 7000 lbs. With a fully loaded trailer we are probably around 6000 lbs. We love ours and know you will love the slide. If you have any questions send me a PM.
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