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Old 04-03-2018, 05:10 PM   #1
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Manual slide override 2004 T280-SR

Hello! I am in desperate need of help please.

I own a newly purchased (used) 2004 TS280-SR and my slide is stuck out. The slide motor underneath is getting hot and it doesn’t want to come back in although it has battery power and it’s also plugged up.

How do I manually override the slide motor it to bring the slide back in?

And secondly, what motor do I need to purchase to replace the old one? It doesn’t have a hydraulic system. Just the one motor.

I greatly appreciate your time and assistance!
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I may be able to help as I have your same slide system on my T310SR.

Trying to get some more info before I start typing down the wrong road of the problem.

1. How long has the slide be extended out? A week, a few months, a year or more? Need to know more about how stuck the slide is.

2. When you use the slide motor and it is getting hot, do you hear a ratcheting, clunk clunk clunk when you press the slide button? That would be the overload clutch for the motor.

3. Has the slide moved in any amount? Try to describe in inches. 0 inches, 2 inches, 12 inches etc.

4. Approx. how many times have you tried to pull it in with the motor? 1 to 2 times, 6 to 10 times etc. I am trying to get a hanlde on how stuck the slide is.

There is a way to crank the slide in by hand however it has to be done very cautiously. Some folks have twisted off the entire slide drive doing it by hand on a slide that was stuck. The manual drive has no clutch on it and the system is so geared down to work off a small motor the power you can create by the hand crank can me 20 to 30 times stronger than the motor can provide and things can break if the slide is jammed.

Tell us more on how this problem came to happen. We need to help you free up the jammed slide before you start trying to bring it in with the motor or the manual hand crank.

Many times the slide can be stuck "in" sitting from sitting over the winter as the slide seals get stuck. The key in that case it to help break free the stuck seals first. But yours may be a different problem and need to know more about how the problem came to be before we can help better.

Are you stuck in a campground trying to leave or is the camper at home and you are trying to get it going for the season?

Hope this helps

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Hi John. Thanks for your response. The slide has been out for about a month. We had it in the day I made his post, but when we let it back it, it won’t come back in.

We hear clunk clunk clunk noise and it has moved maybe two inches in.

We are not camping thankfully. We had a pad built for it and we are trying to move it from my driveway to the new parking pad.

What now?? Lol


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I really wish I could tell what model motor is on this 2004 TS280. We have two fully charged batteries. Is there a fuse somewhere besides in the power converter? We just replaced that unit so I doubt the converter is the issue. This is so frustrating.


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Ok now the slide is in....weird. What could the issue be? Why wouldn’t it go in and then after multiple tries it went in. Could it be the wall switch maybe?


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Hi Lisa

Glad you have the slide in. I am offline other then a phone until Monday. I can then get to all my info to help better

Please take more pics of the slide drive under the camper and post before then. Something looks really different on yours

There is no fuse. There is a 30 amp self resetting circuit breaker in the junction box behind the battery on the camper frame header. If the motor has power then no need to get into that junction box. I will post pics next week what it looks like inside and how to get the screws out.

The switch when it goes bad then nothing on the motor works generally meaning no motor movement it clunking of the clutch.

Your slide seals may need to be lubed. I use 303 aerospace UV protectant on them.

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Hi Lisa,

I'm back home for a short while and have better access to my information.

A key point in this mystery for you. I know you were thinking this may be the motor as the problem or the wall switch but here are a few things to help narrow this down.

You stated when the problem first started, you did hear a clunk, clunk, clunk when the slide motor was started and you tried to bring the slide in. The clunk is the overload clutch tripping. This happens when too much load is put on the slide, the clutch trips to save the motor system. And you said the motor was getting warm after trying this a few times which supports the motor was working just the slide not moving.

Basically explaining this, something was creating more load when trying to bring the slide in then the motor can handle so the clutch tripped. This is normal, the motor is working right. The problem is the slide is creating too much drag for the motor to pull it in.

You also stated the slide had been extended for about a month. And after several attempts the slide did move about 2" then stopped. These symptoms point to excess drag on the slide room that the motor cannot pull in.

This excess drag often times comes from slide seals that are stuck or very dry and the friction is very high. The best way to prevent this excess drag is to lube the slide seals regularly. Every few months. The 2 sides and the long top seal, both inside and out need to be lubed. Spay the lube on a rag and then wipe it on if needed to not make a mess. You can use liquid silicone spray on the seals as it will help on the high friction and not affect the rubber. Or the RV stores have "Slide Lube" which is similar.

I use 303 Aerospace UV protectant as slide lube. This helps prevent the seals from drying out with exposed to the suns rays. They remain more flexible and not so sticky.

If you find the slide stuck out or stuck in, first is to make sure that nothing has fallen into the slide travel path blocking it. Next is to "help" it break free from being stuck. You first press the extend or retract button and "stop" pressing when the clutch trips or nothing moves. Do not reverse the slide, leave the pushing pressure on.

On a slide that will not move "out", (it is stuck in) then push/rock the top of the slide room wall (not the bottom). Once it moves some amount at the top, then the slide seals are starting to break free. Then try the motor again. It may take a few times of this to break it free.

On a slide that is stuck "out", (will not move at all in) the clutch may trip instantly when trying to move it in. This is a little harder to unstick but you do the same thing. Reach up as high as you can (not down low) and push/rock the slide outside trying to get to go in. Once there is some rocking movement, then try the motor again.

If in either stuck situation if the slide is really trying to move and it is very hard, try the liquid silicone spray on the seals. You may have by hand pull the rubber slide flap back to get the silicone behind it between the rubber and the slide of the slide. Even if you do the 2 end walls and not the long top seal, you greatly lowered the friction.

Slides that have not been regularly lubed with a UV protectant of some kind can get stuck in 1 to 6 months time of not being used.

To sort out, is it stuck or is it the motor? If the motor has turned and grunted at least or the clutch trips, then the motor and the wall switch is working. This then points to stuck slide seals or something mechanically stuck in the travel path. Look for something stuck in the slide travel path first.

If the "first time" you try the slide and the motor does not move at all, nothing, then this points to a problem in the motor system. The 2004's have a 30 amp self resetting circuit breaker in the front header junction box to protect the slide motor. If you try the motor one too many times and it heats up, the breaker will trip. Then it takes time to cool down and self reset to try it again. How long, maybe 5 to 10 minutes. If you were trying a lot and it stopped, then worked later that could be the self resetting circuit breaker that tripped and then reset.

The pic of your slide motor does not seem to be what I would expect in a 2004 T-280SR super slide (couch and dinette slide) front kitchen camper. Can you take some more pics of the slide drive system under the camper? I can then for the future help you sort out what brand motor drive you have if you even need one. Also look on the VIN sticker on the front left of the camper for a "Build date". You might have a real early T-280SR and they uses the Barker system and not the Lippert system that the later ones have.

See this post on a 2004 T-280SR that the slide drive pins were sheared off using the manual hand crank on a slide that was stuck. It shows the slide drive. Try and get similar pics of yours. Slide Room Wouldn’t Extend – sheared pins

Hope this helps

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Lisa,

The 30 amp self resetting slide circuit breaker is inside this front junction box on your 2004 camper. Look behind the battery area.

The box outside


The box inside


The self resetting circuit breaker. The breaker with the 2 black wires is for the slide. The large red wired one is to protect the main camper power.


If you ever want to try and get into that junction box, ask here first so you do not get frustrated and end up breaking it trying to get in. Dirt gets in the screw holes making it very difficult to get the screws out.

Hope this helps

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Hi John! You are fantastic and a wealth of valuable information so thank you very much! We have not had cooperative weather here lately coupled with some illness. However; hubby will get out there and take some more photos of he slide and I’ll get them posted here soon. We fortunately finally got he slide to come in and it’s going to stay there until we can get the seals changed as we purchased new seals recently. The old ones were less than desireable.

I’ll be back to you soon! Thank you again. I always know I can count on you to get the most informed responses.
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Thank you Lisa for the good words. Glad to help.

Another thing which may cause more drag on the slide is the rack and pinion gearing system. There are nylon pads to help stop metal on metal contact on the slide arms that do not need lube, however the gearing and the bronze bushings in the pinion shafts can benefit from it. There is a long standing debate to lube to not to lube on the Lippert system however the new Lippert slide manuals now talk about lubing certain parts of the system where the old manuals never did. I started lubing mine a long time ago and it really helps. But.... not all slide drives are mounted or made the same so we need to see which one you have.

Have your husband look at those areas. Odds are high they may be very dry and rusted. Once I can see exactly which slide drive system you have, we can post pics and how to help lower the drag from the slide mechanism system.

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Always lube the it a couple of times a season and this will help with operation of the slide.
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