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Old 05-14-2018, 09:48 PM   #1
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Tire Failure, Tire Investigation and Camper Damage Repair

We had our first campout of the year a week ago. We met up with other Sunline Club friends at Geneva On the Lake SP in northeast Ohio. The campout was great, however the trip there and back was not so good.

I had 2 tire failures. Total tread separation on 2 sides of the camper. And there was body damage to the camper.

This will end up being a growing post as I will keep the blowouts, what failed, the new tires, and the body damage fix in the same post. I will update each area as it happens and I get some time to post it.

The first blow out…

We started out on a 150 mile trip one way on Friday 5/4. I do have a TPM (Tire Pressure Monitor) and all tires were at 80 psi cold before we left. The tires are LT227/75R16 Load range E BFG Commercial TA tires.

At 100 miles into the trip, the right rear tire blew out. I only tow at 60 mph as a norm. May coast up to 65 and back down but that is it. The wind was surging a lot. I could tell the whole rig wiggled from the wind blasts. The tires in the non-sun side of the camper were 3 deg F warmer then the sun side while towing. I thought that was odd but the pressure on all 4 was within 1 or 2 psi. Maybe the wind surges created a little more heat in the one side of the camper with more side flex? Don't know only a guess. I do not think that was a cause, more of an observation. My friend towing to camp also has a TPM and he noticed the same thing.

I heard a loud "bang", looked in right mirror and saw a puff of smoke as the tire tread flew off. Never felt anything in the truck. A few seconds later the TPM went off. After limping about 1,000 feet to get out of the guard railed area, we pulled off the side of the interstate and found this.

The flying tread did some good damage to the camper and it beat up the metal valve stem on the front tire creating a leak. Also broke off the TPM sensor on the front tire. The tread even beat off the grease cap on the rear axle and I lost 2 hub caps. After fiddling with the valve stem on the front tire I could stop the tire leak which was now down to 60psi. I pulled out the generator an mini compressor and pumped it up to 80psi before moving the camper another 1,000 ft to the exit.



A close up on the missing grease cap. Dust in the bearing grease not. Not good.


You can see here, the entire outer tread separated from the tire and blew off. A large sidewall split went from the OD to the bead.


And the tire on the ground after putting the spare on.


Also to note, we stopped for fuel and was lug nut tightening on all wheels 10 minutes before this tire blew out. Never noticed anything wrong and I was right at the tire.

At the exit was a Nissan truck dealer that said “Commercial Vehicles” on the sign. Great! Maybe they have a tire? I went to see the service manager and told him my issues. He checked his inventory but did not have a tire. I asked if I could change my tire and put the spare on in his lot. He said yes and do you need a floor jack to make it easier? I told him I had all the tools, jacks. etc. I just needed a safe flat spot to change this tire rather than out on I-71.

Had to think up what to do with a missing grease cap. H'mm, well MacGyver would be proud. I made one.

Wiped all the dust/dirt out of the end of the bearing. I had some lithium grease I use on the WD hitch and to ball so I packed the end of the bearing with grease to help keep any more dirt out of the actual bearing.


Then I created a grease cap out of Gorilla tape. It worked and created a protective cavity for the grease inside.


Then I took a hubcap off the left side and put it over the Gorilla taped hub. I moved the TPM sensor to the bent valve wheel.

The service manager was really helpful and found me a tire shop in Medina OH and said these guys will for sure have one. I called and they had 4 brands in my size. I bought one Firestone Transforce HT LT to replace the blown one and took the right front tire off (the bent valve stem tire) and put it in the truck. The shop put the new tire on the front location as this tire took an instant overload and was leaking down before I could pull off and did not want to press my luck. Then we went to camp.

Here is some of the damage on the door side of the camper. Took these when we made it to camp




Blew a hole in the Darco. More Gorilla tape to the rescue.


My poor mud flap took a direct hit




We had a great weekend campout with friends and started heading back home. At approx 100 miles into the trip, the second one blew out on the left front side. This was about 20 minutes after a gas stop. Same pattern, blew the entire tread off and a large rip in the sidewall all the way to the bead.

Sitting on the side of the interstate dealing with it.






Now not having any good spare left, I had to put the bent valve stem tire on and go slow as I can for the next 50 miles to get home. I had to pump up the tire as it was down to 70psi so I had to dig the genny and the compressor out of the truck again. This time on the edge of I 71 with truck whizzing by at 70mph. I was able to pull the 3/4 of entire camper on the grass leaving only the blown wheel on the very edge of the shoulder. This gave me about 10 to 12 feet of room before the right hand white line of the lane. It was about the best tire changing place on the side of a interstate as one could get.

The mud flap on the front left took a beating and it cracked the fender but it did not beat up the gold aluminum thankfully.

We made it home OK. Some one for sure was looking out for us as this could of went a lot worse, but it didn’t and we are very thankful. The Nissan dealer, the tire shop, the MacGyver grease cap, sealing the Darco up with Gorilla tape before the rain came, everything just worked out.

The first blow out I left at the tire dealer. I forgot to grab it as I wanted to talk to my retired tire engineering buddy on this. The second one I still have here in the barn.

Now to sort out what happened, what to get to put back on as this camper is not leaving the barn yard without 5 new tires.

Thanks for looking.

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Here's a fairly complete resource that includes Load and Speed Ratings tables along with instructions on how to determine a tire's age without resorting to an online decoder.

Determining the Age of a Tire and Reading the Code


I learned today that the date code is usually only stamped on one side of the tire so I have to look on the inside of my tires (naturally) to find when they were manufactured.
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You got some bad tires there dude I would take them right to Mr Big's desk.
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A crazy scenario indeed, John. One pattern I noticed- both blowouts happened shortly after a gas/rest stop. Mine was the same way- pulled off at a rest area for a short break- literally long enough to check tires and take a bathroom break. Get back on the highway, and about 7.5 miles down the road, the tire blew. So I'm wondering if there's something about the heat of the brake drums, heat of the tires, heat of the pavement, something like that all causing a surge of heat soak that results in catastrophic failure.
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Sorry to here about this JohnB.

Is it possible the 80 psi caused this?
My 250 Transit van has E rated tires which show a max pressure on the sidewall of 85 psi. My vanís GVWR is 9,000 pounds and Ford recommends the pressure be set to 71 psi.
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Here's a fairly complete resource that includes Load and Speed Ratings tables along with instructions on how to determine a tire's age without resorting to an online decoder.

Determining the Age of a Tire and Reading the Code
Hi Dig,

Thanks for posting the link. There is a lot of good info there. I also see it refers to Roger Marble and his work looking into RV tire failures, all kinds of RV's. He is a retired tire engineer who has gone RV'ing... I know him and he has helped me a lot over the years. A very credible source of good info and he is only trying to help give back to the RV community to better help awareness of tires and their needs and failures. Here is his blog RV Tire Safety Lots of good stuff in there.

The tires I have now where installed in 2012. In 2009 I had bought some of the last ST tires made in North America before everything went overseas. This was part of my camper axle alignment correction work on the T319SR. During 2012 I had 3 of the 4 ST tires fail in 2012. I was lucky then, I found all 3 before they let go.

This prompted me to become better educated on how tires fail, way, the loads and pressures and the need for added extra reserve capacity. This is where I hooked up with Roger. Wanting to know in case I was doing something wrong, I cut up one of the tires that just started to fail and sent it to Roger to analysis.

See this post for more info ST Tire Failure Analysis (Lots of Pics)

From those learnings and the fact in 2012 there was no more North America made ST tires left, I made the decision to upgrade to LT tires. This was an amount of work and $$$ in my tire size. ST's and LT have very different load tables. This made me upgrade from 15" wheels to 16" wheels to gain enough load capacity. And increase the amount of reserves capacity to deal with the unique needs of tandem axle trailers. See this post for more info on the upgrade. LT Tires on trailers

This now brings us to current day. Here I am now about 5.5 years later after the install and I have 3 more tire failures. Yes 3, 2 blew out on the road and the 3rd one I found here in the barn inspecting the tire when I took it off the rim.

I am going to do a cut and paste from my 2012 Denman ST tire failures to show miles, years and failures. Came from here ST Tire Failure Analysis (Lots of Pics)

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Here are the date codes. All tires installed on 4-5-2009

1st tire failure on 4-21-2012: 10,614 miles, DOT mfg. date 1908 or the 19th week of 2008

2nd tire failure on 6-20-2012: 11,225 miles, DOT mfd. Date 2908 or the 29th week of 2008

3rd tire failure on 7-17-2012: 11,770 miles, DOT mfd. Date 2908 or the 29th week of 2008

The 4th tire, did not yet fail, was removed from service on 7-17-2012: 11,770 miles, DOT mfd. Date 2908 or the 29th week of 2008
Now lets looks at the current LT tires failures, or shall I say when they actually blew apart. They actually started to fail a while before they blew apart, I just missed the signs. More on this later on how to spot it.

BFG Commercial TA's LT225/75R16's Load range E

5 tires installed on the camper 7/8/2012.

As of 5/7/18 we put on 12,160 miles on the BFG's. Due to moving our home etc during this 5 year period we did not camp as much as we normally do and it is reflected in the lower mileage for about a 2 year period.

The bottom line:

When running my prior ST tires, 3 of them failed in an average of 11,200 miles and 3 years time.

When running my LT tires, 3 of them failed in and average of 12,160 miles and 5.5 years time.

One could look at that and say. Gee, JohnB does not have a lot of luck with tires... And right about now, I would agree.... Both types of tires failed in close to the same mileage just the ST's failed a lot faster.

More yet to come on, what went wrong.

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Hi Mainah,

Bad tires... Well this is more to that story and I may never know. They are for sure now out of warranty by age. I do not thing BFG is going to do much.

After doing some more digging, there may be a manufacturing defect in them, I do not really know and I'm sure I may never know. It just leaves this lingering fact hanging out there.

In July 2012 just after I bought mine there was a recall on this type of tire and wheel diameter, just mine was one size smaller in width. Here is the recall notice : http://www.tiresafetygroup.com/TSG-R...7__31_2012.pdf

And a video from 2013 from one tire dealer showing what to look for on these BFG's. It sure looks like the same failure I had. BFG Recall Video by dealer

I may never know what went wrong, me being me... I want to learn and know so if I'm doing something wrong I can fix it. If it is a manufacturing defect that I happened to land into, well OK that is an answer at least and not a cause I did. I needed to change the tires anyway this year so the tire cost is not an issue, but the damage it beat up on the camper is a headache to fix.
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A crazy scenario indeed, John. One pattern I noticed- both blowouts happened shortly after a gas/rest stop. Mine was the same way- pulled off at a rest area for a short break- literally long enough to check tires and take a bathroom break. Get back on the highway, and about 7.5 miles down the road, the tire blew. So I'm wondering if there's something about the heat of the brake drums, heat of the tires, heat of the pavement, something like that all causing a surge of heat soak that results in catastrophic failure.
H'mm, well never thought about that pattern. But I do have a TPM on the camper and the tire stem temps were around 89F. And if there is a lot of brake heat or bearing heat, it will heat the rim and I find it on the TPM. In this case, the tire temp itself I thinking is not the cause.

But it does leave you with, why after a rest stop within 10 to 20 minutes do 2 tires blow out like that? Is this just a coincidence of odd fate??

I now feel the damage inside the tire was there sometime last year. Maybe even starting the year before, just it did not yet hit critical mass. And worse, I did not check it closer which I have now learned is a need of a LT commercial truck tires. That is a learning for me. My ST's I could more easily see the tread bulges. These heavier LT tire treads, they do not bulge the same as ST's in a level of warning. The LT's are bulged, just the stronger tread makes it more subtle.

Here is the mileage makeup on the LT's. This also shows our reduced camping since we started developing the new place in 2013. I never saw it like that until now. Now I know why I was in camping withdrawal...


We really did not camp much in the last several years. The issue inside the tire I am sure started long before our first campout this year. It may be that the tire was older and that combined with the internal damage all went once they were heated up towing.
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Sorry to here about this JohnB.

Is it possible the 80 psi caused this?
My 250 Transit van has E rated tires which show a max pressure on the sidewall of 85 psi. My vanís GVWR is 9,000 pounds and Ford recommends the pressure be set to 71 psi.
Hi John,

Your new tires may be rated different. If 85 psi is the max cold pressure molded in the tire, that is the max that tire is rated for in the cold condition. Curious what brand, size are they? I have not heard of a 85 psi tire "yet"

Mine has it molded in at 80 psi. I do not think the 85/80 psi is issue but thanks for bringing it up.

And yes on a motorized vehicle Ford (or any mfg'er) can lower the required pressure to meet the axle ratings. Basically they give you more tire capacity then the axle ratings are for. A good thing.

In a tandem trailer setup like many of us have, you really should not use the load table pressures. You use max cold side wall pressure to target. You may be able to on a single axle 2 tires setup go with load tables, but on tandem axles the tires have to handle and additional load of turning/scrubbing. Basically we drag the tires everytime we turn as they do not steer. I will go more into this scrubbing issue when I show my tire failure pics.

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Your new tires may be rated different. If 85 psi is the max cold pressure molded in the tire, that is the max that tire is rated for in the cold condition. Curious what brand, size are they? I have not heard of a 85 psi tire "yet"



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They are Hankook Dynapro HT
235/65R16C

Apparently a fairly odd size.
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Apparently a fairly odd size.
H'mm, your right 85 psi... https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires...tnum=365R6RH12

I'm assuming those are the OEM tire. The reviews are sort of all over on them.

They also have other odd pressures. I wonder if they are a European style tire. They are a 10 ply tire just not declared a LT.

Learn something new all the time.

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Yuck, sorry to see all the trouble you had.

My Yokohama geolandars are showing cracking in the treads at 6 years. Lots of cracking, not very deep. I was planning on using them to go to ak and put new on next year until I looked at them tearing things down. I’ve been feeling like I didn’t want to get new, but your photos ease the pain of buying 5 new tires so a positive.
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My Yokohama geolandars are showing cracking in the treads at 6 years. Lots of cracking, not very deep. I was planning on using them to go to ak and put new on next year until I looked at them tearing things down. Iíve been feeling like I didnít want to get new, but your photos ease the pain of buying 5 new tires so a positive.
How many miles in the 6 years? If it is in the 34,000 range like the bronze bushings...

6 years is not on your side, miles are most likely more than mine. My 2 cents, (your lots more cents) buy new tires before you go to AK....

Going to AK, do you have 2 spare tires mounted on rims? Trust me I wish I did a week ago. I have heard AK can be a not nice place on tires and being out in the middle of nowhere finding a replacement is not "simple". When 1 tire fails, the other tire on that side goes into instant overload. It is common a few hundred miles later the 2nd one goes out. If you can stop almost instantly your chances of the other tire surviving are better, but not guaranteed. Adding years of age on the overloaded tire make it high odds it will fail soon.

Take pics of AK. From what I have seen from others it is really beautiful.
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How many miles in the 6 years? If it is in the 34,000 range like the bronze bushings...

6 years is not on your side, miles are most likely more than mine. My 2 cents, (your lots more cents) buy new tires before you go to AK....

Going to AK, do you have 2 spare tires mounted on rims? Trust me I wish I did a week ago. I have heard AK can be a not nice place on tires and being out in the middle of nowhere finding a replacement is not "simple". When 1 tire fails, the other tire on that side goes into instant overload. It is common a few hundred miles later the 2nd one goes out. If you can stop almost instantly your chances of the other tire surviving are better, but not guaranteed. Adding years of age on the overloaded tire make it high odds it will fail soon.

Take pics of AK. From what I have seen from others it is really beautiful.
Yes, the same miles and they have not been kind miles. I will take a new spare and an old spare on rims along with a second truck spare. Iíve been really lucky and Iíd like to continue that streak.

Will take pics for sure.
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