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Old 10-08-2013, 08:35 PM   #1
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Fresh water/Black water

Still being a newbie at this tt stuff, I have another goofy ?. We have had our T-1950 out 4 times this year, after buying it last fall. On any of the trips we have only used water we put in the fresh water tank, never had full hookup. We only use the sinks, use the shower/bath house at the cg's and their bathrooms. The last wknd we were out it seemed that we were using an exceptional amount of water and we couldn't figure out how we were using so much. Just chaulked it up to not really conserving when we thought we were. Today we started the process of winterizing and found about 10 gallons of water in the black water tank! That must be where all my water went. Sorry for such a long story but I didn't know how to explain my problem, and I don't know where to check for the problem. I figure you helpful fellow campers can point me in the right direction.


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leaky flush valve in the toilet?
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leaky flush valve in the toilet?
The toilet in our 2753 had developed a leak at a fitting inside the toilet. The good thing is that they design as many possible leak points as possible to drain into the tank. The bad thing in our case was that the toilet was so much of a pain to get back together because of the way the top sealed to the bottom that we wound up just replacing the whole toilet.
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If you are using the fresh tank as your water supply source, and you have a leak into your black tank, you should hear the water pump kick in and run while you are not using a faucet or toilet.

Do you recall the pump running when you were not drawing water? This is a sure sign of a leak somewhere. While running the pump once may be, it was just on low pressure and finally kicked in, to get 10 actual gallons into the black tank with a 3 to 4 gpm pump takes some time you should be noticing something.

Let us know about the pump-running thing.

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JohnB, no the pump didn't run unless one of us was using the sink. Thanks for your help.
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I would check the shut-off gate valves outside of your TT and make sure that they both close completely and are not back feeding into both tanks.
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I would check the shut-off gate valves outside of your TT and make sure that they both close completely and are not back feeding into both tanks.
Good thought! Didn't think of that but it now can easly explain how that much water made it's way in there with no excess pump running as Wilson3 reported.
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We hooked up the garden hose, and checked the outside valves. When we purchased the camper last fall it had already been winterized, the pink juice was in the toilet, it is still there, not sure if that would have "flushed away" if the valve was sticking? Couldn't replicate the problem. Unfortunately the cool weather is here in Western PA and it is time to winterize. We will have to investigate this further in the spring. Thanks for all the help, hints and suggestions!
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Good thought! Didn't think of that but it now can easly explain how that much water made it's way in there with no excess pump running as Wilson3 reported.
That could explain water in the black tank but not excessive water usage wonder if the OP could define "excessive water usage"?
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We have a plastic 6 gallon water jug. It was almost completely filled and put into our tank 4 times. Only water use was washing hands after using the cg restroom, brushing our teeth and washing dishes for 2 meals for 3 people. When we camped at a cg the first time this year we only filled the water jug 2 times and did dishes for 3 meals for 4 people, brushed our teeth and hand washing. Still had water left in the water tank when we got home.

Hope this helps define "excessive water use". And again thanks for all your help.

PS just so I am sure the Hubby knows what I am reading to him what/where are the shut-off gate valves?
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Was the # of days camping still the same? Also last time you had 4 people and this time 3 - was that 3rd party one of the 4 from last time? Do you know that they conserved water as the last party of 4???
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The # of days was the same. The 3rd party was only an evening visitor, included him to account for sake of argument with dishes.
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PS just so I am sure the Hubby knows what I am reading to him what/where are the shut-off gate valves?
The shut off gate valves are outside next to the dump pipe hook up. They have T handles on them.

Each layout is a little different but here you can see on my prior T2499 there is a black tank valve on the left and a gray tank valve on the right

The black tank is the big pipe, the gray is the smaller pipe/valve.

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Thanks John, that is what I thought , just didn't want to be relaying the wrong info to the Hubby.
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