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08-18-2010, 06:33 PM
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Brakes Optional
The person I bought this TT from says I really don't need additional braking system. He says he went to Texas hunting twice a year with no problems. What do the masses think about that?
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08-18-2010, 06:45 PM
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Location: Rhode Island
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A 27' TT DOES need brakes. I am guessing the weight is over 4000 pounds. I think in most states it will be required by law. Something with an actual weight of less than 2000 pounds, maybe a bit more, would be ok without brakes
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Gene & DW Ginny
2002 Sunline T-2363
2008 Toyota 4-runner 4wd 4.7L V-8
Reese Dual Cam straightline - P3 Brake controller
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08-18-2010, 07:02 PM
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That seller sounds like some RV salesmen who will say about anything to get a sale. Don't risk your own safety or that of others believing such a claim?
Bob
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Bob ...SOC-015
2007 Solaris T-2499 with 2004 Dodge 2500 Quad Cab Diesel TV.
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08-18-2010, 07:12 PM
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Location: New York
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I don't think Anybody on this site will say that you don't need brakes on a 27' TT.......
IMHO Any Travel Trailer even a 12ft. one should have BRAKES.
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08-18-2010, 07:20 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
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SUN #149
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Right! And REAL skydivers don't have to bother with those sissy parachutes, either........................
Frank
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08-18-2010, 07:31 PM
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Location: New York
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SUN #264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ed_wilson475
The person I bought this TT from says I really don't need additional braking system. He says he went to Texas hunting twice a year with no problems. What do the masses think about that?
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Some states require trailer brakes on any trailer over 1,000#. Most of the others, require trailer brakes on any trailer over 3,000#. But there are a couple that don't require brakes until 4,000# or 4,500#. Texas is the 4,500# state.
http://www.towingworld.com/articles/TowingLaws.htm
My '99 is roughly 24' and weights about 4,300# dry. GVWR is 5,500#. Sunline put dual axle trailer brakes on it for a reason. Your 27' trailer has to be heavier than mine so even the 4,500# Texas requirement would apply. It has dual axle trailer brakes, too. Intentionally not using them and getting into an accident would almost certainly result in CRIMINAL action in addition to a massive civil law suit.
I can not imagine trying to stop a 1/2 ton pickup towing a 27' trailer without trailer brakes especially in an emergency situation.
In short, without knowing the seller, I would say he's full of hot air and has no clue what he is talking about. I would not want to share the highway with him under any circumstances.
No poll required... The answer is: It needs trailer brakes regardless of some of the state requirements.
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08-18-2010, 07:32 PM
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Location: Georgia
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Most of the states I've checked on require trailer brakes on ALL wheels if the trailer weighs more than 3000 pounds. I've lived in FL and GA and they both have that requirement.
Our popup (GVWR of 3000 pounds) had 'em. Your 27-footer probably has 'em, too. You just need a controller.
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Dave & Cindy
'99 Chevrolet 2500 ext. cab (2WD)
5.3 liter V8, 3.73LS, Prodigy, Hensley Arrow
2004 Sunline Solaris SE T-2499 #5527
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08-19-2010, 05:44 AM
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Location: Massachusetts
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Massachusetts is listed as 10,000# !!!! That's crazy...but it does explain a lot.
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1983 T1550
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08-19-2010, 06:22 AM
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WOW! You guys are AWESOME! (Oh yeah, I need to buy some of that). I definately purchased the right TT. Thanks for your quick responses. Since this is all new to me, I will be contacting this forum constantly.
By the way:
Ed and Sue Wilson
Charleston, SC
If you've never been to Charleston, you don't know what you're missing.
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08-19-2010, 09:41 AM
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Location: Maryland
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Where's the smiley throwing the BS flag when you need him???
I have a 28' there's no way in.... I would try to pull it without the brakes hooked up or a damn good weight distributing hitch (Equilizer), either!!
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2004 Dodge Ram 2500 Club Cab 4x4 CTD
2007 Sunline Solaris T-276-SR
2001 Dodge Ram 1500 Reg Cab 4x4 OFF-ROAD
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08-19-2010, 10:01 AM
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Location: Rhode Island
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I think that was an excellent question. Lots of first times get told things that could be dangerous, usually by salesmen that should know better.
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Gene & DW Ginny
2002 Sunline T-2363
2008 Toyota 4-runner 4wd 4.7L V-8
Reese Dual Cam straightline - P3 Brake controller
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08-19-2010, 10:56 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Maryland
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I think that was an excellent question. Lots of first times get told things that could be dangerous, usually by salesmen that should know better.
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I agree, excellent question, it's the original answer he was given that needs the BS flag.
I was with some friends when they were told the followings things by an RV "salesperson":
"You don't have to worry about tongue weight, you'll be using a weight distributing hitch"
"You don't need to pay attention to the gross weight, you'll won't haul that much"
"You won't have anything in your tanks when you travel"
I ran out of things to throw for flags.....
Yes, very dangerous indeed.
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2004 Dodge Ram 2500 Club Cab 4x4 CTD
2007 Sunline Solaris T-276-SR
2001 Dodge Ram 1500 Reg Cab 4x4 OFF-ROAD
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08-19-2010, 03:08 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: New York
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SUN #264
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MACK C-85
I ran out of things to throw for flags.....
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Add: "You'll never carry enough gear to reach the GVWR." spoken to me in front of several prospective customers in the middle of an RV show. My reply was: "Who are you trying to kid? Everyone carries lots of gear, and it weighs more than they think it does." I also asked him why he was giving unsafe advice at which point he walked out of the trailer.
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08-19-2010, 03:59 PM
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Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ohio
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Too bad these lying salesmen (read idiots) can't be held legally responsible when they send people out on the road in an unsafe rig. Around here, when a drunk driver causes death or destruction to innocent people, the bar that served them is charged and tried too.
BTW, good for you Steve. I hope those prospective customers walked away from that salesman.
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