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Old 05-09-2018, 08:54 PM   #1
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Atwood Robofoot Problems

If anyone has the Atwood Robofoot for thier power tougue jack, please inspect it. I have one that came with my power jack that has only been used one season and the main load plate bent making the tounge jack unstable. I also think it was close to breaking the welds and dropping the trailer tougue suddenly.

I contacted Atwood to find out they sold the jack part of the company to Lippert. I then contacted Lippert, my jack is past the one year warranty. They did sort of offer to replace the Robofoot if it was close to one year, but I declined because it really won't slove the problem of what I believe is a problem design, and it has been well over a year. I think I was able to get my point across that this could be a real safety concern and I was told they were going to let the design/engineering people know.

I am going to replace my bent load plate and add some support from the base. I did remove the bent load plate that is only 1/8" thick and rated at 4000#, how I'm not sure. The entire thing is made out of thicker steel, but the load plate. It only took a few whacks of a hammer to break the welds to remove.

Here is some pics of the bent load plate and how much it was actually welded. I will update with more once I get it reconstructed.

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I bought my dad a new jack for his car trailer a couple years ago, and insisted on Atwood. Most places were selling ones with the robofoot, but I found one that still had the traditional foot, because I feared the robofoot didn't look heavy duty or stable enough. Plus, the fewer moving parts he has to deal with, the better.

I think between you and your dad, you'll reinforce this better than new! Personally, it looks like it needs a thicker plate, as well as a T-bar or angle iron welded in for support in the middle, going down to the bottom.
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The jack works great, and I like the Robofoot. It came with the jack somone was nice enough to gift me and I have a standard foot to use for the low tounge campsites. However if I were purchase one separately the Fastway Flip Jack appears to have a thicker plate and looks to be welded on all three sides instead of two on the Robofoot. It also has a larger bottom pad. I don't like the red though I would paint it, that be said the powder coat on the Robofoot is really nice.

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The Atwood jack part of the company sold to Lippert???? Man, another one now gone. Dometic bought up the other part of Atwood. Seems jacks may not have been in their expansion plan.

Wow, they really made a miscalculation on that jack post support plate. That really is not much of a weld, more like a fusing root pass. And the metal thickness is not right either.

Thanks for letting our club members know. Hoping Lippert will tell their engineering group about this and they act on it. That could be a real bad thing when that plate lets go.
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Had some time to work on the Robofoot fix some here and there. I cut a 1/4" thick piece of angle iron as my main load plate and a piece of box tubing for support to the base. The angle with the box fit really well in the space. There was two holes on either side already, I drilled and tapped them in the new parts to hold in place. I decided not to weld to save burning up the nice coating on the main foot. Found some nice stainless bolts in my collection, looks almost factory from the side. Will disassemble to paint the new parts and reassemble. Here is where I am so far.

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WOW!!! That came out great Ben! Simple, but yet very effective.

Thanks for sharing.
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Looks good Ben! I don’t blame you for not wanting to mess up the coating.
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The Robofoot sat out this last season as I never got around to painting it. Finally had the paint out and finished it up. Here is the final fix, we will see how it does this camping season.20190303_131136.jpg
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To help the cause with owners of Atwood power tongue jacks.

A month ago, I was looking into buying a new 4,000# Atwood ball screw jack like Ben mentioned in his post for a fellow camper. While I could find several of the Atwood jacks for sale on the web, I could not find any sales brochures any longer to confirm the specs on the jack mount.

I called Lippert directly to see what was up as it is no longer offered on the Lippert store website. Lippert has discontinued the Atwood tongue jack line. They had 22 left in inventory at the time of the phone call and once they were all sold, no more would be available from them. They would support the spare parts from them and honor the 1 year warranty from other retailers as their stock depletes. Lippert would then offer their power tongue jack they have and had prior to buying the Atwood business from Dometic. Dometic bought the assets of Atwood Mobile to get the furnaces and the water heater etc. and sold off the jack line to Lippert.

We lost another good power tongue jack manufacturer with Atwood. I went with the Barker 3,500# ball screw unit for my friends new power jack.
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To help the cause with owners of Atwood power tongue jacks.

A month ago, I was looking into buying a new 4,000# Atwood ball screw jack like Ben mentioned in his post for a fellow camper. While I could find several of the Atwood jacks for sale on the web, I could not find any sales brochures any longer to confirm the specs on the jack mount.

I called Lippert directly to see what was up as it is no longer offered on the Lippert store website. Lippert has discontinued the Atwood tongue jack line. They had 22 left in inventory at the time of the phone call and once they were all sold, no more would be available from them. They would support the spare parts from them and honor the 1 year warranty from other retailers as their stock depletes. Lippert would then offer their power tongue jack they have and had prior to buying the Atwood business from Dometic. Dometic bought the assets of Atwood Mobile to get the furnaces and the water heater etc. and sold off the jack line to Lippert.

We lost another good power tongue jack manufacturer with Atwood. I went with the Barker 3,500# ball screw unit for my friends new power jack.
Little drift here, but is the Barker ball screw (Delux-high power) what you are thinking as the cream of the crop? I need to replace mine this year. Mine has not been trouble free, I've had it apart for water in the gearbox and a dry bearing that keeps coming back (loudly). I haven't researched them yet, but if you have and that was your conclusion, I'll go that way again.
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The Robofoot sat out this last season as I never got around to painting it. Finally had the paint out and finished it up. Here is the final fix, we will see how it does this camping season.Attachment 5885
That looks great, we need to move up from our yellow cone.
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Little drift here, but is the Barker ball screw (Delux-high power) what you are thinking as the cream of the crop? I need to replace mine this year. Mine has not been trouble free, I've had it apart for water in the gearbox and a dry bearing that keeps coming back (loudly). I haven't researched them yet, but if you have and that was your conclusion, I'll go that way again.
Tod,

After the Atwood option left the table, I did go with the Barker 3,500# High Power Deluxe ball screw unit. Part number 27452. Still made in the USA, 2 year warranty and that jack has been around a while. The only issue Barker has is over time water can get in the head due to an O ring leak on the cap. I would solve that by cutting the top out of a 2 gallon plastic oil can and putting a hood on it when not towing. I use the hood on the Atwood I have on my T310SR, but more so to protect the plastic from sun damage. But any jack, a cover can help make it live longer.

Their website has the wrong link to the Deluxe ball screw unit, it still links to the ACME screw series.

https://www.barkermfg.com/power-jacks.html

I was not really willing or waiting to start trying the off shore jacks. There are a lot of them out there now, they cost less too. Have no idea on how long they last or how good they are.
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After the Atwood option left the table, I did go with the Barker 3,500# High Power Deluxe ball screw unit. Part number 27452. Still made in the USA, 2 year warranty and that jack has been around a while. The only issue Barker has is over time water can get in the head due to an O ring leak on the cap. I would solve that by cutting the top out of a 2 gallon plastic oil can and putting a hood on it when not towing. I use the hood on the Atwood I have on my T310SR, but more so to protect the plastic from sun damage. But any jack, a cover can help make it live longer.

Their website has the wrong link to the Deluxe ball screw unit, it still links to the ACME screw series.

https://www.barkermfg.com/power-jacks.html

I was not really willing or waiting to start trying the off shore jacks. There are a lot of them out there now, they cost less too. Have no idea on how long they last or how good they are.
Good info. The leak is exactly what I suspect began the failure of mine (the first time I tore it down the grease in the gearbox was a nasty emulsion was water, grease and corrosion). The circular bubble level on top has a foam seal that tore (vs an O ring) and it let water in. The camper was also stored outside for long periods (not under the roof it has now). It is not a trivial matter to tear them down and get them back together for anyone thinking about it. .

Your solution of a very simple cover on a tether would easily solve that problem.

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Your solution of a very simple cover on a tether would easily solve that problem.
Here is the 2 to 2.5 gallon bucket in action

The Atwood, no bucket


The bucket


It has accidently had a road test a few times. But it made it to the campground Would not advise it as standard practice
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I'm leaning toward the Robofoot rather than the Flip Jack since it's a much easier install and remove when needed. And it's black - no need to advertise that you have a neat accessory on your RV.
The added strength is a great idea thanks.
But why bother with the angle iron and bolt? A properly sized square tube either tacked or bolted in place to support the bottom plate is more than enough reinforcement in my mind.
And, with all the changes in ownership, does anyone know if and where to buy one?
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