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Old 11-09-2013, 12:09 PM   #1
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My lovely 1990 TC

I recently bought this fantastic unit. I found it on Craigslist. It had 1 owner. They used it 5 times once a year to drive to the NASCAR race in Loudon and then it was put in their barn for the rest of the year. Everything is great in side. No leaks everything works and looks like it should. I was able to procure this gem for $1500.00 . It had all the original paperwork and manuls too. The only thing I can find wrong with it is that the clearance lights acroos the the front are very dim when on. The taillights and rear marker lights are all bright and good but the yellow lights are dim as if they aren't receiving sufficient juice. I ran a hot lead from the battery to one and when that wire is cinnected they all light up with the proper intensity. I know I can't make that a permanent thing because I suppose it would be a fire risk. I am guessing there must a wire that is grounding out or corroded? How do I access this wiring? Do I remove the inner skin to get at this?
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:19 PM   #2
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Old 11-09-2013, 12:24 PM   #3
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Old 11-09-2013, 03:55 PM   #4
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Hi Drifter,

Welcome to Sunline Owners Club. Glad you found us.

WOW that is a rare find! Congrats!!! Just need to be in the right place at the right time...

On the front clearance lights, since you did the hot lead trick that helps eliminate the grounding at least. I do not know exactly how your camper was built but I will go on the assumption Sunline used the same practice as with their other campers.

So here goes, find the front most body/clearance light that works correctly even if it is on the front side of the camper. Remove the screws that hold the fixture to the camper. There may be a gasket or putty tape sealing it to the camper, pry gently. What you should find is both a ground and hot wire stuffed in the wall, wire nutted to a daisy chain. While the lights are all in parallel, they jump from fixture to fixture with both the hot and ground.

Undo the wire nuts on the hot wire, if you have an ohm meter you can figure out which is the ground by the wire being common to the camper ground. Or use a test light to find the hot one. You will need to figure out which lead is the incoming hot wire and which is the leaving hot wire from that location. With the hot wires loose, power up the circuit. If you found the actual last location as the fronts go completely out, that location then jumps up to the top front clearance lights, then good you know where the wiring starts.

What you are not going to know is which side front clearance light is the last one in the circuit. If there are only 1 hot and 1 ground at the first fixture you pull, then it "might" be the last in the loop, go to the other side and try.

When you find the last good light that you know then jumps up to the top, check for corrosion at the wire nut and if it is is good then go up top what looks like the first light they would of jumped too.

It will be a process of elimination until you find the last good hot wire location to where it jumps to the top front lights. When you find that wire hopefully it is just corrosion or loose at the connections at either end of the hot lead wire.

If you for sure have traced it to that section of wiring being bad, somehow in the wall it got rubbed etc. Odds are low but not impossible it rubbed through in the wall. If you are real fortunate, you have the 2 ends open and tie a fresh new wire on one end, solder it on etc. so it will not pull off and hopefully you can fish a fresh new one through when you pull out the old. Sometimes they tie the wires in a loop/not and then your just plain stuck.

The "hope" is, it is just a wire nut connection that is loose or corroded which is a quick fix once you find it.

I would not tear into the wall as only a ultimate last resort and even then I would think of a better way. If I had to, I would go in from the outside siding as it will comes off and will not totally destroy itself. The inside panels are glued to the studs, the siding is stapled and you can undo the staples. But lets leave this as a very distant foggy thought right now.

Hope this helps and good luck

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Old 11-09-2013, 06:13 PM   #5
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John,

Thank you very much for your quick response. I am going to check out all the wire nut connections to start out with. I think I might wait till spring to start taking the fixtures off of the unit. Reason being is it's already getting cold here and the temperatures may be to low for caulking to set up properly during reinstallation. I'll think about that a bit more. I'll definately keep as long last resort disassembly of the outside skin. That sounds like a big job that could get ugly quick. I'll write back after my inspection and let you know what turns up.
On an aside I used to live in Ohio after I got out of the Army in 88. I resided in North Ridgeville for a year or so.
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Very nice camper, John! A camper built just a couple before yours still resides in Fitchburg, MA.
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I imagine you can tell this by the VIN number? The owner is a member here as well? Small world. Michigan, where I was born and raised and resided for most of the last 45 years before moving here 5 years ago. Actually from Detroit and resided on the lower east side near Mt. Elliot cemetary and 7 & Kelly area. I'll add my VIN to the list as well.

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I'll write back after my inspection and let you know what turns up.

On an aside I used to live in Ohio after I got out of the Army in 88. I resided in North Ridgeville for a year or so.
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Good luck on the wire hunt. And yes, drop us a note back on the findings. Little by little we keep piecing Sunline history back together.

North Ridgeville, that was about ~ 2 to 2.5 hours about due north from us. Your winters by the lake I'm sure are a lot more intense then down here in flat land country.

Have a good one

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I imagine you can tell this by the VIN number? The owner is a member here as well? Small world. Michigan, where I was born and raised and resided for most of the last 45 years before moving here 5 years ago. Actually from Detroit and resided on the lower east side near Mt. Elliot cemetary and 7 & Kelly area. I'll add my VIN to the list as well.

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Yes, that was by VIN from your sticker. It was not submitted from a member here, it was just one I found online. I didn't go look up the pics to find exactly where it was, but probably Craigstlist or eBay.

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