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Old 07-05-2010, 04:54 PM   #1
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Water system question

Please excuse that my first post is a question - but, man, am I puzzled.

I own a 2004 Solaris 317. It is set up on a permanent lot that doesn't have sewer hook-up and is pumped weekly by a honey-wagon.

So this weekend I realize that the black water is FULL. I go to the manager and asked if I was pumped last week - yepper, you were pumped. Something wrong with your toilet.

So....I crawled under the trailer (which isn't easy for a short dumpy 63 y/o with bad knees. Nope nothing amiss there. As I roll out from under there I look towards the hitch and see a 3rd lever. There is no markers on the outside of the camper, explaining which lever does what. I have the manual, and it doesn't say a thing about a 3rd lever.

So...here comes the manager with the honey-wagon - he thinks, (but is not sure) that we have 3 tanks - 2 grey water and one black water ??????

Does anyone out there have an idea what gives with this, and in what order these should be dumped???? We have grey water disposal.

Thanks for any light you can shine on my black water problem. Oh lordy, how corny.

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Hi Kat!!

Welcome to the SOC!

I looked at the 2004 brochure for your 317 HERE and don't see where it says you have three tanks. According to the brochure, you have 32 gallons of fresh water capacity, 35 gallons of gray water capacity and a 30 gallon black tank.

Being a 317, yours may have been ordered with three tanks. SunlineFan would be the one to ask and I'm sure he'll be along soon!
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Hi again Kat....

For some reason, the link I tried posting before did not work.


HERE is another try!
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Thanks loads for the info. I kinda thought maybe it might have been a factory add on. Had a 95 Solaris and I know it didn't have 3 valves. This one is a 3 bunk custom with movable walls (which I took out) Bought used at Keystone - have had a lot of problems with it. So many things wrong.

I see we are neighbors. I live 1/2 way between Hedgesville and Berkeley Springs.

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I see we are neighbors. I live 1/2 way between Hedgesville and Berkeley Springs.

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That's cool!

If you'd like, Kitty and I would be more than happy to come take a look at it.. We may be able to brainstorm something. Not to mention the fact, that I'd love to see it!



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It is sitting on a permanent lot in PA - Longview in Mercersburg. I settled on this unit because my husband is disabled and the bedroom was one step from the bed.

Would welcome any ideas. We are supposed to go up this weekend, but as hubby is on oxygen, this heat may effect that timetable.

It is an assured fact that your little finger has more knowledge than my whole brain.
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ok, I need to proof my replies - bed is one step from bathroom - DUH
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ok, I need to proof my replies - bed is one step from bathroom - DUH

I understood what you meant...

If you would like us to come by for a look, please let us know...



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That would be cool.
Just let me know when and we'll be there! It's only 44 miles from here...
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Will do. Supposed to be there late Sat thru Tues, but it will depend on the heat.
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Will do. Supposed to be there late Sat thru Tues, but it will depend on the heat.

Saturday evening would probably work for us... Keep in touch!
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I own a 2004 Solaris 317. It is set up on a permanent lot that doesn't have sewer hook-up and is pumped weekly by a honey-wagon.


So....I crawled under the trailer (which isn't easy for a short dumpy 63 y/o with bad knees. Nope nothing amiss there. As I roll out from under there I look towards the hitch and see a 3rd lever. There is no markers on the outside of the camper, explaining which lever does what. I have the manual, and it doesn't say a thing about a 3rd lever.

So...here comes the manager with the honey-wagon - he thinks, (but is not sure) that we have 3 tanks - 2 grey water and one black water ??????

Does anyone out there have an idea what gives with this, and in what order these should be dumped???? We have grey water disposal.

Thanks for any light you can shine on my black water problem. Oh lordy, how corny.

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Hi Kat

Welcome to Sunline Owners Club!!!! Glad to have you with us.

Hímm now to your question.

I pulled out my handy 2004 brochure (I have had 2, 2004 unitsÖ) and looked up the T317SR. That was the one that was a new model in 2004. And by the brochure it has a swinging wall and bunks in the back. Does yours have bunks in the back and was there a small bath area back there? I thought I read somewhere that the 317 had that option.

On floor plans that have drain needs on 2 ends of the camper they have at times put in 2 grey and 1 black tank. And there are 3 valves.

The front kitchen T280SR has 3 valves, at least on the 2005 model I know it did. The front kitchen sink was so far from the bath sink/shower that they had 2 grey tanks. Or the pipe slope was too shallow to make a run that long.

Now to the dumping sequence, well the black first, then either of the 2 grey tanks. And the only reason Iím stating in this order is to flush the hose and pipe with the grey water after the black has gone thru a good part of the main dump pipe. As far as which grey goes first, I cannot think of a reason it would matter which one was pulled first.

What is odd is that the CG pumper truck missed your black tank if I understand it right. I have a clear fitting as par of my connection piping to dump with. That way I know what is and is not coming outÖ. You can also use a flash light and look down the toilet and see if it is empting. There may be some blockage not allowing the tank to drain.

Hope this helps and good luck with your camper.

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Old 07-07-2010, 06:44 PM   #14
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John B,

That makes so much sense. Yes, there were movable walls (which I removed for space sake). But no bath at that end. The bunks looked like a great idea when I bought it, but one season of sleeping on the bottom bunk with 2 dogs - I have moved to the sofa.

I can't answer why the pumper didn't see what was coming out. He has the clear pipe on his pumper too. Could be that he has a guy working with him who is more able to crawl under campers to hook it up, who just didn't know what he was doing.

One thing that you reminded me of, after they came and pumped my black water tank the lights indicated that it was still 2/3's full. I know those lights aren't the most accurate and by visual inspection the tank is empty. This weekend before we leave, I am going to fill it up with water, maybe there is a piece of something over the sensor.

What amazes me is that all this stuff sat all winter and the holding tank didn't freeze and break....maybe the camping gods were looking after me this time.

I have had to fix so much on this unit, I was about to chuck the whole thing.

We had a 1995 Solaris and had no problems with that one and that is why I chose a Sunline again....but the dealer didn't stand behind this unit....learned a valuable but expensive lesson.

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out.

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Thanks Kitty, we are hoping to get up to the camper sometime late on Saturday, but, as always, depends on the heat.

So nice to know that help is just a hollar away.

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Kat, What Kitty said...

Yup, that is for sure. We help the best we can. And even more so going to a few Meet and Greets you make new life long friends you never knew before.

Hope all works out well with your camper. Ask away on anything, we can generally point your in a direction where to look.

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Hi Kat

You posted here about what I think says you have enclosed tanks!

http://www.sunlineclub.com/forums/f7...html#post88038

Does your have that plastic cardboard looking cover and only a pipe hanging out to connect the dump pipe too?

If so, gee I finally found someone else with this setup.

You would not by chance have in the camper manual the original sales order that shows any extra options ordered when it was bought new would you?

I wonder if in the 2004 time frame Sunline was experimenting with an extended season package which was the enclosed tanks. I have been tracking (with the help of Sunline Fan) every T310SR that pops up for sale trying to find info on that model as they only made it for 2 years. And they all did not have enclosed tanks. It may have only been done on the larger campers and your falls into that area.

And if you do have enclosed tanks, well there are 2 pull levers for dumping a good distance apart. Do you by chance able to take a pic of your setup? You have me really curious now. One gee maybe another enclosed tank camper and next is, what did they do with a maybe 3rd tank and your floor plan???

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John B,

I am so sorry that it has been so long and no reply. This has not been a good week....quite busy.

Yes, this sounds just like my set up. I would describe the cover more of a rubber roofing type cover. I will take pix this week and post on Monday. The funny thing is I was gonna do it this weekend, but I had a porch full all weekend.....finally had to excuse myself to pack up to leave on Tuesday.

I will say that this model had a lot wrong with it, and this is so not like Sunline. Water leaks all over the place, microwave was broken, but little by little I have gotten everything fixed (I hope). Then there was the mice and stinkbugs. They must have been there when we bought the camper. No wonder the previous owners got rid of it.

We do have the original book and I do believe it has the order form in it....will bring that home this weekend too. Hope I can help you shed some light on this.

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Don't forget that Gary & I are more than willing to ride up to your place to look at/help you with anything you have questions/problems with.

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