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Old 06-24-2007, 07:06 AM   #1
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Potential Sunline owner needs guidance

http://www.trailerlife.com/cforum/in...d/19886378.cfm

Bugbite over on the Trailer Life Forum, needs advise on purchasing a new 2007 Sunline T1950 - he has not gained access to our forum yet...so I thought some of you might want to go over to Trailer Life and give your comments on why he should purchase a Sunline.....his concern is they are no longer in business.....

I already put my 2 cents in!
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I will post another reply to him. He posted previously in RV/Net. He is full of a zillion questions. And might be expecting more in a trailer than will be available in the size he is looking for. But, hopefully we can make him a happy Sunline owner.

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Kitty - one of his concerns is what do us Sunline owners plan to do when we need a sink trap or a knob for something in the TT, small incidental things!

I've tried twice to answer some of his questions, and I don't think I'm getting anywhere....maybe of someone else chimes in, it will work.

He has a lot of concerns because Sunline is no longer in business!
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He is full of a zillion questions. Kitty
Kitty and Kathy,

You can say that again! I can't believe how many times he posts! I'm getting ready to leave, so I can't go into much detail right now, but I wouldn't let the closed factory hold him back. If I had the money, I'd go buy the 2499 General RV has on their lot right now. I wouldn't hesitate one minute.

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P.S. Kathy, he mentioned something about to tell any moderators over here to let him in. I, along with all the other moderators, don't have any control over that. It's only Sarah, who I have a ton of brochures sent to right now, so I think she's pretty busy. Tell Bugbite just to hold on.
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I figured when Sarah got around to it she would "let him in".....so I guess he'll have to wait until she does......I know I had to wait also!!!!

Glad I'm in now
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Hey I resemble all of those remarks except change he into she.
I am married to an engineer and if anyone knows these creatures intimately you will know why I have to ask so many questions

Still wondering what is going to be done on the 12 yr. roof warranty

Has that baby been thrown out with the wash water on the closing?
Getting resistance here on that point.

Also what kind of pin connector for brake and light interface?

7 pin flat or 8 pin round for the 1950
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7 round pin connector on the 1950. You wont find a better trailer than the Sunline. The only thing that is of the same quality is an Airstream. I know I looked and all the rest of the stuff out there is junk. THESE TRAILERS ARE BUILT WELL, VERY WELL. THEY USED QUALITY PARTS AND HAVE GOOD WORKMANSHIP. I own a 1950 and am very happy with it. You can buy a Airsteam Safari 20' which has the same layout for about $37000. As for the warranty there isnt one. Let see you pay 13500 for a Sunline or 37000 for an Airstream. Hum same quality 23500 in my pocket. You can a buy lots of parts and service with that. Or since the Sunline wont need any work take a lot of trips. Take the engineer to Rv lot an look around . A keen eye will spot the quality in these trailers. Parts for RV's are off the shelf, they are all made by subcontractors. They are not like your Toyota.
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Parts is Parts

Hey Nickster!

I am not in disagreement w/ you.

>>Parts for RV's are off the shelf, they are all made by subcontractors. They are not like your Toyota.
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Have you taken a look at even your F150? Noticed the amount of parts of it that come from subcontractors, contractors Mexican and Canadian?

The Tundra is made in this country. The new Tundras with the 5.7 engines and drive trains are made in mostly Alabama but some in Missouri. The bodies and most parts US suppliers. The labor in Indiana or California to assemble. Luckily the engines and drive trains of the 2002 V-8 4.7s come off the boat. The V-8 4.7s are Lexus engines long proven for dependability.

Not to mention those of you with diesel GMs the engine is made by Isuzu in Japan.

Ford, GM, and Dodge must buy engines from other makers like Cummins, International Harvestor, and Isuzu.

So anyone have a 100 percent built by 1 company anymore? Nope.

Too bad Tundras haven't gotten to 3/4 tons and 1 tons diesels. But if they do likely they would go with the Isuzu industrial grade like GM is using.

I have to say it is very hard for any American made (including probably Tundra new 5.7) to outlast a Jap job engine off the boat like my DH's old 1 Ton lil Toyota of old, my Toyota Corolla, and our Toyota 4 Runner. No doubt unless we trade off just for grins we will be cremated in ours rather than be buried in a box.

The old adage... the last xxxx we'll ever need LOL!

I am so glad your 1/2 Ton and 1950 work well together. Just what I want... keep our cherry Tundra and get a 1950.

Our Tundra may be equal to your F150 in towing power but wanna drag race? Our Tundra would leave yours in the dust. LOL!
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Old 06-27-2007, 11:00 AM   #9
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You missed the point totally.
A rv sink is a rv sink it is used in many differant brands and models. A stove is a stove and used in many models. The parts for your truck arent interchangable with the parts from my truck. Most RV parts are.
As for the trucks the Tundra is a nice truck. Dont really care where it is made. There is a differance between the two . My truck is a work edition truck. Tranny cooler, large radiator heavy springs, heavy duty alternator 7 pin harness class 4 hitch. It pulls trailers everyday. That is what it is set up to do
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Points well taken

Actually the amount of part suppliers no matter the brand of truck and car are becoming fewer and fewer. So you might be surprised that the Tundra may have some of the same parts. Certainly interchangeable w/ after markets.

Yes I understand the sink is a sink concept too.

Yes, your truck could definitely outpull ours but I still contend our Tundra can beat you in a race. But then that isn't what counts here on this board. Our Tundra is easier on gas and we don't pull that often.

Out of curiousity why didn't you get at least a 250 or even a 350 diesel if you are pulling a trailer (I assume for work)?

Again to each their own. We have some options that may help in towing too but not as good as your "heavy" as in good for pulling 150.
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My truck is a work edition truck. Tranny cooler, large radiator heavy springs, heavy duty alternator 7 pin harness class 4 hitch. It pulls trailers everyday. That is what it is set up to do
So what brand of hitch are you using?
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Brand new f-150 $15500.00 during the employee discount sales. all of the bells and whistles come off the bottom line. vehicles are consumables
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Equalizer?

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Equalizer?

Load equalizer?

Using one of them?

Reece Dual is a combined hitch and equalizer isn't it?

We probably will go Reese for a bit until we can get a Hensley should we choose to spring for it.
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Bugbite,

We have a Hensley Arrow. We feel it’s the best hitch on the market, but we’re a little bias . It’s an exceptional hitch, no sway at all and we’re pulling ~8,000 lbs. If you can afford a Hensley, I would strongly recommend it.

If you don’t go with a Hensley or can’t afford it, make sure you get a good weight distribution hitch with anti-sway control.

Reese makes a very good hitch. I’ve heard some excellent reviews on their dual cam system, but I don’t have any experience with it.

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We have a Hensley Arrow. We feel it’s the best hitch on the market, but we’re a little bias . It’s an exceptional hitch, no sway at all and we’re pulling ~8,000 lbs. If you can afford a Hensley, I would strongly recommend it. Hutch
YEP going w/ the Hensley. As soon as we can locate one after getting a TT. Hopefully on eBay used. Last one went for 2K but we can afford the 3K which about blows all the money *I* got for the Colemen sold.

Might have to get a Reece Dual Cam temporarily depending upon how the TT drops out of the sky or not. It will someday. Sorta' silly to get the Hensley until then... but stranger things have happened here!

BTW nice "meeting" you!

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Bugbyte,

The Hensley is the best out there, and its price reflects that.

Do you think you will really need that type of setup for the 1950 you are considering?
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Before you go buy a hitch, you need the TT first and know how it loads up. And then you need to size the hitch, TV receiver, brake controller, TV towing equipment and balance TT and truck to create a total towing solution. The hitch is only part of the equation.

Many have had to rebuy lots of hitch parts because they did not know going in what to look for or ask for. WD hitches of any brand take a level of understand and research. Forums like this one, help a lot of good folks know where to go looking and help them speed up the education curve.

Some very good hitches are:

The Hensley Arrow
The Pullrite Hitch
The Reese WD hitch and Dual cam
The Progress Manufacting, Equal-I-zer hitch.

These hitches above have built in sway control and WD. Each have there limitations and pro/cons.

Think of it like this. You have a big box of tools (WD hitches) You have to use the right tool for the job to get good performance. There is no one tool that works for every application.

Good luck and hope you find a Sunline

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That's exactly why I LOVE the guys at Stoltzfus. They took the keys to my truck and completely built the complete package while another guy took us through the trailer explaining everything (except that silly drain valve I found the other day). The Sunline pulls like a charm and the truck sits like it has nothing on the back. I figure they have configured enough to know what they are doing. And I totally agree with you...............It is a package. M&S
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