Pin connector?

bugbite · 06-26-2007, 06:41 PM

Anyone know what kind of connector is on the 1950?

Light and Brake Controller

7 pin flat?
8 pin round?

Bargman?

BB

**Sunline Fan** · 06-26-2007, 07:08 PM

Bugbite,

The plug is a Bargman, but there is no such thing as a 7 way flat or 8 way round, to my knowledge. All Sunline's use a 7 way round plug.

Jon

bugbite · 06-26-2007, 07:15 PM

Maybe I typed it wrong while trying to interpret what the professional electrical engineer was telling me to ask.

So I can tell him round?

Asleep now on the other end of the lazyboy couch. Don't have the heart to wake him.

**Sunline Fan** · 06-26-2007, 07:17 PM

Yes, it is a round, and it is 7 pin. There are also 4 and 6 way round, but those aren't what Sunline used.

Jon

bugbite · 06-26-2007, 07:30 PM

OK I'll pass along.

**Sunline Fan** · 06-26-2007, 07:41 PM

Bugbite,

I answered your roof question in detail in response to another post where you mentioned that. It should come with a 12 year warranty, but the dealer would be able to give you more details on that. As long as you take care of the roof (clean it often and seal/treat it), it should last the life of the trailer.

As I've said before, I'm pretty sure all Sunline's have 10" brakes. I know they DO NOT have the smaller 7" ones, but they may have the larger 12". So, it's either 10" or 12". Sorry I can't confirm it. I have a few take-off brake backing plates but they aren't here- they are at my grandpa's house and I'll measure them next time I'm there.

Jon

bugbite · 06-26-2007, 07:59 PM

I am in your debt.

Has anyone asked your dealers about the 12 yr. roof warranty

What did they say

nickster60 · 06-27-2007, 04:37 AM

This is just my humble opinion, which I have many. I think you are worrying about the wrong things. Most RV companys use the same roof and many other components. If the warrenty is an issue you could buy a Fleetwood or a Forrest River with a warranty than they wont honor or just get the run around. Seach the internet about RV quality issue and you will then see why many of us bought a Sunline with no warranty.

bugbite · 06-27-2007, 04:55 AM

>>The plug is a Bargman, but there is no such thing as a 7 way flat or 8 way round, to my knowledge. All Sunline's use a 7 way round plug.
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bugbite · 06-27-2007, 06:08 AM

I wonder if anyone out there has replaced a rubber top (in any TT not just Sunline) and what it costs to do a new one soup to nuts including the usual wall damage?

Here is something that happened to engie's tech. He had a new travel trailer (not sure what brand) and he failed to maintain the roof for 3 yrs. Wasn't covered or stored. Yes, the roof leaked. He had special insurance that covered leaks. They totalled his unit out but of course with the depreciaton of what the unit costs new.

Speaking of insurance we have AAA Plus for vehicles which at least gives us towing and other services. The unit itself will be insured thru our car insurance company for comprehensive. We just now were going to drop the comprehensive on the PUP and go to liability only that is until we sold it last week.

So it would behoove everyone especially if you don't keep your Sunlines in storage or covered to least explore the possibility of special insurance to cover roof leak damage or wear of material of actual rubber. Or you can bet on the come you will not have any roof damage especially if you trade off later on rather than keep it beyond 12 yrs.

So anyone ever get their roofs covered if the defect was for poor rubber (not seam leaks) ever from the rubber roof materials company?

If the roof warranty wasn't honored about how much did it cost to replace just the rubber itself?

Not disputing you vets here I assure you, just wrapping my head around what you say and think a bit farther.

Poppy & Nana · 06-27-2007, 06:41 AM

The way we treat/maintain our TOYS, we are not even thinking of a bad roof If we maintain it, we should not have a problem.....do you think a manufacturer will give a 12 year warranty IF they think the thing will fail in less time????

I've read over on Trailer Life forum, that roofs have failed for lack of maintenance, and cost up to $3000 to replace....all this is relative to the size of your TT also and how much of a rip-off artist your RV dealer is!

Also read on TLF that some people have replaced a roof themselves and saved a bundle of $.

I doubt if DH & I will be around in 12-15 years

The kids can fight over the Sunline after we are gone.......

**PTHutch** · 06-27-2007, 06:44 AM

Bugbit,

IMO you’re worrying and thinking too much about the roof and warranties. You really don’t need to worry about either.

Our previous Sunline we owned for 7+ years. Maybe washed the roof once a year (missed some years). Stored it outside all the time and through the WNY winters. Never a problem with the roof.

Wrt warranties, you have to understand that most of the components, such as roof, appliances, frame, etc. are all made by other manufacturers (not Sunline) and their warranties are still valid and in effect.

Dicor manufactured and warrantees the roof,
Axels / Brakes are either Dexter or Al-Ko
Frame – probably Lippert Components
Appliances – Atwood or Dometic
A/C – Dometic
Water Pump – SurFlo
Vinyl Floor - Armstrong

The list goes on. See the OEM & Other Info Links topic for a partial list of manufacturers that Sunline used their products in their trailers.

In short, these manufacturers warrant their products used and their warranties are still good.

Plug is a standard 7-Circuite Receptacle as shown in this diagram

Hopefully this wiring diagram will answer your questions on the plug.

As far as everything else, my best advice to you, if you have that many questions & concerns and are that unsure, don’t buy one.

Buy another trailer from a manufacturer that's still in business. I would recommend looking at Sunnybrook - their Titan line. IMO, the Sunnybrook Titan has the similar level of quality as the Sunlines. But then I don't think they have any small light weight trailers.

Personally, we would never buy any other trailer but a Sunline, we’ve owned 3 and have looked at almost every other trailer brand out there. Even with Sunline out of business, we would consider buying a used Sunline before any other brand. Now that just our opinion.

Hope this helps some.
Hutch

nickster60 · 06-27-2007, 07:01 AM

I am with Hutch
If you dont feel comfortable about the warranty dont buy one. We looked at everything in our area (florida) and you can find more RVs than you can shake a stick at. It came down to the Airstream or the Sunline. I still like the Airstream I just like $23000 more. If you want a trailer to last for ever and tow easy buy an Airstream. They also have great resale value.

bugbite · 06-27-2007, 07:52 AM

Sent the DH material on Airstreams.

pwb01 · 06-27-2007, 12:39 PM

I bought a new '06 T-1950 a few months ago. The 12 year roof warranty and the 25 year on the floor are backed by the manufacturers. The forms were in my manual to send in or register on the internet. All other appliance warranty forms were also there. I just sat down one evening and took care of them. The other important warranty was the 3 year on the trailer which would have been backed by Sunline but I got it in the contract backed by the dealer. He added it without me even asking, said he wasn't worried about a major problem with a Sunline.

We looked for about two years before we settled on the Sunline. There was no comparison and we've seen them all. Every one we looked at we found we were comparing the quality to a Sunline and decided that quality was a high priority. Everything else was preference and practicality.

bugbite · 06-27-2007, 02:28 PM

I got the answers I was seeking tailored to the 1950.

So does your Frontier V6 handle it OK? What kind of hitch? Did you get an equalizer?

Your TV has even less guts than the Tundra.

I see you have a T@b! Tiny things! My OH Cousins is featured on the T@B site at the end of the photos. Her's is the Tahitan T@b. The lighted palm tree must have made a hit. Thing was almost as tall as the T@b. My husband had to hunch over when inside.

So do you have the Clamshell or their regular Teardrops?

I have to say my cousin's Jeep Cherokee Ragtop was squatted down. They really could have used a leveling hitch.

Enjoy your 1950... still a wanna be here and may just remain so...

BB

pwb01 · 06-27-2007, 04:20 PM

The V6 pulls it just fine with a Reese hitch with equalizer and sway bar. There's no way you could tow without them. My limit is 5000# and the T-1950 is 3800# empty so I'm at my limit. We absolutely love the Sunline. We miss the T@B a little but don't miss having to involve shoes and flashlights at night. We had the teardrop which sold the day we traded before we left with the new unit. The T@B had it's purpose and we used it for 3 seasons. We're hooked on Sunline now.

SanDimasJoe · 06-27-2007, 04:37 PM

Pwb01,
I'm not used to some of the acronyms used here, but what is a T@b?
Joe

**PTHutch** · 06-27-2007, 04:41 PM

Joe,

T@B is the manufacturer of small trailers.

bugbite · 06-27-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SanDimasJoe

Pwb01,
I'm not used to some of the acronyms used here, but what is a T@b?
Joe

A T@B is a teeny tiney Thor Product.

http://www.tab-rv.com/

It is surprisingly heavy for it's size. My OH cousin's husband estimated all toll it was about 18K fully loaded. Really needs a load leveler on the smaller tow vehicles.

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