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Old 09-25-2012, 11:58 AM   #1
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mouse poop!

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We have a 2004 T2499 trailer that the mice love as much as we do. Does any one know how to remove the couch/bed? I am on a mission to clean mouse poop from any place I can get to, plus a few I am trying to get at with out success (like under the shower).

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Hi Bill,

I know JohnB has pictures of this in your exact year/model, but in short, the couch should just be screwed down to a 2x4 frame. I suspect there are four screws holding it down, with a #2 square head. Pick up the couch like you're going to be folding it into a bed, but leave it in like the V form. You should be able to see the silver screws going through the black angle iron frame there. One will be right up toward the front, and another will be a little farther back/harder to get to. It probably isn't a bad idea to have some help to have someone hold the couch in this position so it doesn't fall down and hit you. This will remove the whole thing.

The other option is to remove just the bottom cushion. Pick it up in the same way as before, but instead of taking out the four screws, take out the four nuts that hold the cushion on in the back, to the hinge. I think they are 9/16". No need to hold any head for the bolt. Just put a wrench/socket on those nuts and spin them off. Then you can lift the whole cushion out and it'll give you plenty of access to the floor.

Again John can probably help clarify here, but you should have some sort of access to underneath the shower. It'll be a panel, covered in wallpaper just like the wall, with a few screws holding it. It'll probably have a plastic corner trim around it too. Remove those screws to get access, probably to the shower/tub faucet in particular.
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Old 09-25-2012, 07:50 PM   #3
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Thanks,

I have been using a vacuum wand from under the galley with the bottom drawer out. You gave me kind of a duh moment. So thats what that panel is! Now if only the dryer sheets work on the mice.

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Now that I think about it, I think I remember John's pictures having part of that area under the couch covered with a panel. As in when you lift it up to put it in bed form, it isn't open under the whole thing. There have to be square head screws somewhere there to remove that panel and give you access down into the Sunline dungeon...
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I'm not sure about yours but on mine the outside shower is behind the couch. By removing outside shower box and disconecting lines I was able to access the whole under couch area. Found allot of saw dust and wires.
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.... Now if only the dryer sheets work on the mice....
Some people claim only the Bounce brand works , others say the mice use the dryer sheets to build their nests. .

I prefer to use peanut butter ....... applied to the trigger lever on a spring trap!
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Old 09-26-2012, 07:47 PM   #7
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Here ya go on how to get the couch off and to the HW heater and furnace area on your camper. Complete with pics.

T2499 HW Heater ByPass Access - A Different Way.

Now to the mice, You have crawl under the camper and seal up every little hole in the vapor barrier leading up into the camper. Use steel wool and spay foam insulation or caulking if needed.

Look for any pipe or wire that goes up from the bottom and any tears in the black under belly vapor barrier. And check around the wheel wells. Check the fridge side vent, put a screen in there if needed. While the fridge is pretty well sealed, there may be a hole somewhere in there. Make sure the shore line cord hole is plugged up if the cord is out.

It is getting to be that time of year when furry critters are looking for and indoor winter nest.
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One other place to block off with steel wool is the power cord entry hole. Ive had mice go in and out of there.
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John,

Thanks for the pics of the couch mod. I let my wife see them and now I have to do it to our trailer.

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John mentioned spray foam insulation earlier. I just found out that Home Depot has a Pestblock Insulating Foam Sealant by Great Stuff. 16 oz. Pestblock Insulating Foam Sealant-11000722 at The Home Depot

They claim it has a bitter tase that mice don't like. I wonder who did the taste test ....
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I let my wife see them and now I have to do it to our trailer.

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LOL

Sorry Bill.... Yes, seeing folks campers has created a number of mod's to ours.
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John mentioned spray foam insulation earlier. I just found out that Home Depot has a Pestblock Insulating Foam Sealant by Great Stuff. 16 oz. Pestblock Insulating Foam Sealant-11000722 at The Home Depot

They claim it has a bitter tase that mice don't like. I wonder who did the taste test ....
Thanks Gene, that is interesting. I used the regular stuff to fill up some cracks in the garage and I had a few furry friends come in over the winter. They went nuts after the stuff... ripped it all out... Wonder if Dow got a bunch of complaints and then made a new product. I'll have to look for that now.

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Old 09-28-2012, 07:49 AM   #13
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John,

In looking at your couch mod, I had an A Hah! moment. The power cord compartment is wide open for the critters to get in. I typically leave my trailer plugged in to keep the batteries up, and the little opening for the cord still lets them in. I will have to size it down with some sheet metal to keep them out. So in helping me with the couch thing you also helped with the mouse problem.

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Bill:

Scroll down to post #4 in this thread for another power cord option. The newer trailers have a detatchable power cord and this owner did the mod on his older trailer:

New load center, everything works!

No hole at all!!

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