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Old 01-02-2018, 12:44 PM   #1
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Sunline 280 for sale in Harrisburg area

There is a 2002 Sunline280 SR located at a dealer in Middletown , Etnoyers RV this posted on Craigslist for Harrisburg PA. Any one in the club know anything about the trailer. Looks rough on the outside but OK inside Wondering if its worth a trip to PA to look at the trailer.

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I thought the outside looked pretty good. I just thought I would post the link so others might have a better idea as to a fair asking price. I am not very knowledgeable about pricing.


https://harrisburg.craigslist.org/rv...433513827.html


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Price looks a little high for that age SR Rich, but I guess it's typical for a dealer listing. I would want to be in it for closer to 5k.

Outside does look in good shape, just in need of a good cleaning. Doesn't look dented up.

Interior does look clean, but there are some signs of things to look closer at:

- Living room carpet where the slide comes in. On both sides, there are major color changes. I know a slide can roll on the carpet and make it look a little different like after you vacuum, but this looks more like fading. Or it's moisture that the slide rollers are squeezing out to come to the surface. Hopefully it's just lighting for the picture or carpet fading, but check these areas to make sure the floor is solid and the carpet is dry. You never tow with the slide out, so the bottom of the slide never has a chance to get dirty and rub that dirt inside under normal conditions.

- Rocker recliner is missing. Not a big deal, but something to justify a lower price.

- Check the bedroom walls below the windows for water damage. Looks like I see an issue with the wallpaper border below the rear window, which is either just peeling border or actual rippled wallboard.

I probably know the least about this era of Sunline, but I found it interesting that it had all roller shades throughout. I think this would have been a custom option at the time, especially for the bathroom and kitchen windows. I wish mine had that!
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Thanks Caps Fan

Going to try to go up on Friday to have a look. By the way I see you are from DC I live in NoVA.
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Thanks, Ill check out the areas you mention actually looking for a lighter rig to take out west again, 5th wheel drops the fuel economy a bit. and is to big for some of the national parks.

I would prefer a bunk hose for great grand kids.
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Thanks, Ill check out the areas you mention actually looking for a lighter rig to take out west again, 5th wheel drops the fuel economy a bit. and is to big for some of the national parks.

I would prefer a bunk hose for great grand kids.
Understandable, I was curious why you were looking to get into a trailer again.

As Sunline slide bunkhouses go, your only option is a 267/276SR, unless you want to go above 30'. I believe some or all years of the 267 have a corner bed, which I don't think you guys would like. The 276 has an island in a configuration a lot like your 2499 was, but that limits you to 2006 or 2007. The benefit of that is that when the grandkids aren't along, you can fold the bottom bunk up and it has that large outside cargo door that would allow you to easily load/unload some zero gravity chairs, a cooler, or whatever else you want outside right on the patio.
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Hi Rich,

I'll add a few things to look out for. On that year SR model it had the Darco covered slide floor. This is not really a problem but it did have an attribute to it that allowed water to get on the back side of the floor from water running down the side walls. It would capillary wick under the floor a short ways, find an "open" screw hole (that was the problem) and get up behind the Darco. Once it, it's not coming out. Over time it would rot the floor. It is luck, good or bad if it is dry and hard or wet and soggy. If the camper floor is hard and dry, you can plug/cover the holes so water does not get in.

Since that camper had a slide topper on it, it has better odds of not getting the heavy water run down the side walls. See this post and it shows all about it. 2004 & Older Slide Floors. Something you should check.

In 2005 they went to a plastic coated board for the slide floor, this solved the Darco hole issue, but like anything new it created another issue. Slide end floor rot. If you look at the very end of the slide floor, if it is all cracked and obvious water got in, that is the concern area. Sometimes they put the lower slide wall molding lower and it covered it all up, no issue. But if they put the molding on higher up leaving the floor end exposed, then water could get to the end of the slide floor. Seems the plastic coating was thinner or something on the ends then the bottom. Over time it would crack. An easy fix if it is not rotted, you just have to cover the ends and then all is good.

Don't let either prevent you from considering the camper. Just heads up to look and you can hopefully get a price concession. Doing a floor repair is a doable thing if you have wood tools and some time. They even have a U tube showing how to pull the entire floor out with the slide still in the camper. I fixed mine in place.

Another tip, if you have not seen this post on a moisture meter, highly recommend spending $40 and get one if you are looking at any brand used camper. They are even great for anyone owning a camper. Moisture Meters For Inspecting a Camper

Again, anything in a Sunline can be fixed with pretty much common wood tools and some time on the wood structure parts. Again if you can spot it before you buy it, it may be able to give you a price concession or if they won't, you at least know it before you bought it to give you options on what to do.

You mentioned bunks, The T-320SR is a larger bunk camper but as Jon said, it is longer. Gary and Kitty had one and I spent a night in it... It is not a bad layout. We take our 32 foot T310SR into some good backcountry camps, but it is longer and limits some of the sites. That said, if a 28 or 30 footer will fit, the T310SR can too. There are some parks that much over a 24 footer is having a hard time. Those we can't go to.

Good luck and let us know if you need any help on this.

Thanks

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Hiller, I just saw your post. I live in the Middletown area ...let me know if you'd like me to look at it for you and even get some close up photos.
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Thanks Caps Fan

Going to try to go up on Friday to have a look. By the way I see you are from DC I live in NoVA.
Hello...We bought our Sunline from the Harrisburg area too. The owner seemed surprised we came that far, but we did not put a limit on how far we would travel to look. It makes a fun day trip, which eventually paid off. The very kind thing we encountered was that the owner held it for us to have the first look, as we had called first but couldn't make it up there for several days.


(Tony's offer was a generous one, as well).

Good luck and keep us updated!

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Thanks everyone for the assistance. Went up to Clearbrook north of Winchester VA Friday afternoon to look at the 267 SR but did not make it to Harrisburg. It was about 10 degrees so not much time spent out side. Will go back with a ladder this week to check the roof. as it is a 2002.
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Thanks Tony

I went up and looked at the rig on Friday. Too cold to do much.

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Understandable, I was curious why you were looking to get into a trailer again.

As Sunline slide bunkhouses go, your only option is a 267/276SR, unless you want to go above 30'. I believe some or all years of the 267 have a corner bed, which I don't think you guys would like. The 276 has an island in a configuration a lot like your 2499 was, but that limits you to 2006 or 2007. The benefit of that is that when the grandkids aren't along, you can fold the bottom bunk up and it has that large outside cargo door that would allow you to easily load/unload some zero gravity chairs, a cooler, or whatever else you want outside right on the patio.
Thank you for that information. You answered my question without me asking it. In a few years we will be upgrading from the 90 to something with some bunks for my 3 sons. The 30 footers have 3 bunks, but that is a lot of trailer for a bumper pull.
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Thank you for that information. You answered my question without me asking it. In a few years we will be upgrading from the 90 to something with some bunks for my 3 sons. The 30 footers have 3 bunks, but that is a lot of trailer for a bumper pull.
The advantage of a 2980 would be three permanent bunks for your sons, which would leave a living room area that's usable. With everyone along, a 267/276 would require one using the couch, which can be challenging. The bunk area on a 2980 is pretty separate. The 276SR is only a foot or so shorter than a 2980, and heavier/taller.

That said, you probably will have a harder time finding a 2980. 267SRs are pretty common.
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Thanks, Ill check out the areas you mention actually looking for a lighter rig to take out west again, 5th wheel drops the fuel economy a bit. and is to big for some of the national parks.

I would prefer a bunk hose for great grand kids.
Are you permenantly downsizing, or going to also keep the Montana? Good luck in your search!
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Hi All. This is my first post on here so bare with me. I see this camper has been at this dealership for some time now, and it is still there. I've seen it from the outside a couple of weeks ago, but my work schedule prevents me from getting down there to see the inside. Pictures look good but can be deceiving. I've call the dealership and talked to them about this unit. They are standing firm on the price. They say they are going to fix the slide problem where the carpet is marked. I think the price is high for a 16 year old camper.
My wife and I want to visit our grandkids this year in Kansas. Should we be looking for something more travel worthy? Even something lighter. I have a GMC half ton 2008 with 5.3 eng.

I see this camper has a 915 lb. tongue weight.
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Even something lighter. I have a GMC half ton 2008 with 5.3 eng.
This, yes. A 280SR is too heavy for a half ton truck with a 5.3. You will want a bigger engine and a 3/4 ton truck for that size trailer.
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My wife and I want to visit our grandkids this year in Kansas. Should we be looking for something more travel worthy? Even something lighter. I have a GMC half ton 2008 with 5.3 eng.

I see this camper has a 915 lb. tongue weight.
Hi and Welcome to the club!

The T280SR is a nice camper and a popular floor plan with the front kitchen.

The age of the camper is not so much an issue is as how it was taken care of and did they do the required roof maintenance every year. If you are seriously considering this camper, ask about how to look for a water infection.

As to towing this size camper, the "loaded" camper tongue weight of that floor plan by fellow club members is 1,200# on average. The empty tongue weight could be more in the 900 # area.

I can help explain this more if wanted, once you start loading the camper the tongue weight will go up quickly and then when you put anything in the truck bed, your good 1500 pickup will quickly run out of rear axle capacity and most likely exceed the truck receiver capacity. You will struggle towing a camper that large and sooner or later be in search of a different truck or camper.

That size camper fits well with a 3/4 ton pickup or the right optioned 3/4 or 1 ton van. You pick whatever brand truck you want. Just confirm the truck receiver hitch has at least 1,200# tongue weight rating in weight distribution mode. The receiver can oftentimes be upgraded with an aftermarket one.

The older pre 2007 3/4 ton Suburbans with the 8.1 engine and 4.10 rear axle can just get by. TW is the issue. The older pre 2007 6.0 engine 3/4 ton Suburban will not be a good match. The right Excursion with the right tires and upgrades can be OK too. Ideally look for the 2005 Excursion as it had the 1,200# receiver it just needs some rear spring help. I forget which year the older EX's had the 1,000# receivers.

The 2007 and newer 3/4 ton Suburbans will not handle the loaded tongue weight of the camper. The 2007 redesign dropped the loaded TW to 1,000# max due to the integrated rear bumper/receiver limit.

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