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Old 03-18-2017, 07:00 PM   #1
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Project Camper - 2004 T1950

Today, my son and I picked up our new "project camper"!

The camper sort of "found me".... It is a 2004 T1950. Fern Blue interior. This now makes the 3rd Sunline we have or had that is a 2004 model and Fern Blue interior! What are the odds of that??

The prior owners had a change in their life and the camper had not been used since 2010. It needed a good home and it found it's way to ours!

The inside is in great shape as the inside was well cared over the years all the way up to this week and shows it. However there is the reality of it sitting in outside storage without constant roof care and sun protection. It needs restoration to be brought back into it's full glory, thus the "project".

After inspecting the rear top roof seam, it had a leak. It had been caulked but after inspection today, the caulk had let go and water is inside the wall. It just has not yet entered the inside of the camper in large qty's. This is no inside mildew/musty smells. A good thing. There is also sun damage to most of the exterior plastic items. But it is intact, not beat from misuse and while it needs a good cleaning, it can be all be fixed with an "amount" of time. This makes it a great candidate for restoration. Once I get to it... have to finish our T310SR and a few other ones first... we will get her all fixed up ready to go camping!

So... I have a new camper project!!!

Here are some pics. We set out with a truck load of tools and 4 new wheels and tires and ready for most anything.... We had to put new rims and tires on to bring it home. The tires on it where the originals from 2003. And the rims had some heavy rust from sitting in the storage lot making it questionable if they would hold up to Interstate transport. We put the new rims and tires on, took care of the fridge vent cover that disintegrated when I touched it from sun damage... The roll of gorilla tape fixed that one to get the camper home as it was misty raining on and off. The Max air covers helped keep the 2 roof vents from the same fate. They are worth their weight in gold!



When we pulled the wheels we could see good looking grease at the axle cap sticking out and the brake drums spun free. YES, score! Was hoping we did not have a froze up axle and all was well. Temp checks at regular stops for checking lug nut torque showed the hubs where all nice and cool.

Here it is at home. The wind was blowing and it was drizzling at 39F, brrrrr. About froze trying to get a better fridge cover on to not get water in the fridge and to do a quick patch on the rear and front roof seams. The front right roof seam needs closer inspection. We also changed back to the old tires to sit in the sun and wet since it has to live outside for a bit until we can get to taking it apart inside the workshop.

The left side


The back wall. The top right rear corner is one of the water infection points. The bud board has separated from the rubber roof and that inner tube bounce feeling is there.


The front and right door side


The right side


Stay tuned for future updates on the "Project Camper"

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Old 03-18-2017, 11:39 PM   #2
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Looks great John!!
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Another Father-Son project! With the experience you guys have, there should be less head-scratching and more progress in a sort time. You'll have it looking like new when your done.
Can't wait to see the extent of the damage and the rescue process.
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Very cool! Is this a keeper or are you restoring it to sell? We know someone who'd give it a good home...
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Looks great John!!
Thanks Jon. The inside is in really good shape, and the outside is not beat up other then sun damage. This will be a great candidate for restoration.
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Another Father-Son project! With the experience you guys have, there should be less head-scratching and more progress in a sort time. You'll have it looking like new when your done.
Can't wait to see the extent of the damage and the rescue process.
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Hi Rich,

Yes, as I'm sure you know from your prior Sunline rebuild, the first time is the longer time one creating the learning curve... Once you know what to expect and how they are built, you can take it apart relativity fast.

I did a moisture meter test yesterday, it's gonna be a "project". I'm going to create a post on just how to use the meter to inspect a camper. This is the perfect situation where you can find the wet with the meter, then take the camper apart and see what that wet reading was. I also learned the meter can see wet through the shower wall plastic. And from the rubber roof down. We need a good post on camper inspection and those who have found wet areas can chime in too on how and where they found theirs. This will help folks when buying a camper or finding an issue in a members camper.

The extent of the damage, don't know all of it yet as it was very damp outside so I could only do inside with the meter. This I know, the back part of the roof, the entire back wall, approx 3 feet of the door side wall and about the same on the non door side wall has to be opened up. I don't know yet about the rear floor. So far everything forward of that back area is dry. Will know more when the sun comes out for a day or two. The rear top roof to end wall seam is in rough shape on the door side. By the sludge in the awning gutter, the camper was nose high so water favored heading off the back wall beating on that compromised seam. And the awning gutter was almost filled to the top with sludge.

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Very cool! Is this a keeper or are you restoring it to sell? We know someone who'd give it a good home...
Yes, I read last week someone "might" be on the hunt for a T-1950

I don't know just yet what the long term situation will be for the 1950 after I get it restored. Being in it doing some inspection yesterday, I was amazed at how much inside storage is in such a small camper there is. Sunline sure created a winner with this floor plan on storage utilization. The only draw back I see is the non walk around bed.

I myself would like to go camping in it. There are certain parks we cannot go to with the T310SR. This little camper is so easy to move it and tow it and it has everything in it including the kitchen sink! My better half I'm not sure will like this for a long term plan. She really likes the T310SR and the room. I had the same issue with the T2499 that I myself had a real hard time letting go. My son has expressed interest in using the T1950 for certain camps. Right now, don't know the long term plan yet. It is going to take an amount of time to go totally through this one. Maybe a year. I sense another winter project coming from this one... I have a qty of other camper work already lined up waiting beyond my T310SR project before I can start heavy work on the T1950.

I will for sure keep that other T1950 looker in mind... One never knows.
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Nice! I can't wait to see this project.
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Yes we're looking for something smaller! While the Fox is a beautiful, well built trailer, it is 32' long X 11'4" high. That's a lot of camper to tow around and try to fit into these hilly old PA and VA state parks. We looked at a 1950 2 weeks ago but it needed alot of love, and we don't have the space for it until we sell the Fox. We've also looked at new. What I don't understand is why someone doesn't copy those wonderful Sunline floor plans. Everything we look at has minimal windows, and rarely one in the front. We just love the sofa, chair, & flip up table in lieu of a dinette, and no one does that. Then there's the strong chemical smell in new ones...yuck. So that's the story in a nutshell. We're on the hunt for a decent small Sunline.
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We're on the hunt for a decent small Sunline.
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I had the same issue with the T2499 that I myself had a real hard time letting go.
I mean, I'm not sure your 2499 has been used more than once or twice since...you might be able to buy it back. And it has been stored under the carport the whole time...

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Thanks Jon. The inside is in really good shape, and the outside is not beat up other then sun damage. This will be a great candidate for restoration.
You'll get really sick of seeing Awesome, Mr. Clean erasers, and Krylon Fusion pretty soon! But it'll look brand new in no time.
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Congratulations John.

The T-1950 must have been a popular model as I frequently see them for sale. I'm guessing they made them all the way up to closing shop?
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I mean, I'm not sure your 2499 has been used more than once or twice since...you might be able to buy it back. And it has been stored under the carport the whole time...

You'll get really sick of seeing Awesome, Mr. Clean erasers, and Krylon Fusion pretty soon! But it'll look brand new in no time.
Oh boy, you had to put that T2499 thought in my mind... Thanks though.

The Awesome and Mr. Clean, hey after cleaning 32 feet of a T310SR, the T1950 is a walk in the park...
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Congratulations John.

The T-1950 must have been a popular model as I frequently see them for sale. I'm guessing they made them all the way up to closing shop?

Hi Johnny,

Thanks and Yes, The T1950 was made in a 2007 model up until the end.
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I'll have to browse the file section to find the first year. Or do you already know?
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