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Old 05-16-2012, 09:45 AM   #1
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Econo Porch

Due to still being very unsteady on steps, Carol wants something more stable and with a hand rail for the trailer and I was looking at this Stromberg Carlson Econo Porch. Unfortunately, nobody locally has them in stock to look at them, so I thought I would ask if anyone has any experience with them??? They're not the most portable, but they do fold down flat for transport after removing the cross braces.

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Hi Mack,

I truly understand your need and want. My DW's knees are not as good as they use to be and I may be in the same boat soon of a step upgrade.

I have never had the steps you looking at. They list them as a park model. The only thought I had when seeing this is the campsites we visit here in Ohio. The campsite pad is often only 1 or 2 feet wider then the camper. And I pull as far over on the pad to have the most exposed pad on the door side to not walk in the mud etc. Some camp sites as not real flat off the end of the pad. It is common they drop 1 to 2 inches to the dirt/grass.

Some how need to have some 2 x 4 shims etc with shim up the steps to be level and not rock. This may or may not work in all cases.

As an option, I have seen other brands of folding camper steps. Your steps and the ones I have on the camper may be the same. They are sort of short steps (tread width) and not shifted from step to step much. Makes it more complex getting up/down. A camping buddy of ours has a Jayco Jayflight and his steps are a lot wider treads by several inches. That wider step made it easier even for me to go up and down. And now looking at new TT’s they have these wider steps that are curved in the front of the tread verses ours that are straight across. I tried them out at a dealer and they are walking up/down even easier.

I will see if I can hunt up the brand of those steps and post a link. This might be an option to help. Cut off the Sunline steps and put these one. They fold in and out just like the Sunline steps and hang level with the camper regardless of campground.
To get a hand rail, have to think through that. I’m sure something can come up. I’m “assuming” you already have the big fold out grab handle? Yes/no? Most of the slide campers seemed to come with these as standard verses the little one like the non slide camper have. The bigger handle helps.

Hope this helps

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Old 05-17-2012, 11:12 AM   #3
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Some how need to have some 2 x 4 shims etc with shim up the steps to be level and not rock. This may or may not work in all cases.
One of my thoughts too. I saw another set of steps that were not as portable, that had six adjustible feet to allow for uneven ground. Essentially a "nut" welded on the frame, and a piece of all-thread with a plate welded to it for a "foot"

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As an option, I have seen other brands of folding camper steps. Your steps and the ones I have on the camper may be the same. They are sort of short steps (tread width) and not shifted from step to step much. Makes it more complex getting up/down.
That might be something to check out, our steps are very steep.

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Yes, we do have the big d-ring handle. She really needs something she can lean on and preferrably on both sides.

Unfortunately, steps are a continuing issue, and not just with the camper.

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Did you search for some kind of power lift? A personal elevator of some kind. Why climb when you can ride.
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Did you search for some kind of power lift? A personal elevator of some kind. Why climb when you can ride.
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Mack, I looked at the link to the steps you posted and what I saw were prices of $300. I have a handicapped chair lift that I bought for $300 at a yard sale. I'm sure there must be some for sale online close to that price.

My wheelchair lift is like this one: Used Wheelchair Lift - Harmar AL500 Mobility Lift. It is shown here used, on sale for $975. I have seen them for sale for less than the three hundred I paid. Medicare pays for these things and families will get rid of them cheap. Using one on a camper couldn't be much worse than assembling/disassembling those stairs every time, once the installation is figured out. If not a wheelchair lift like that one then perhaps another style would be easier to install.
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Perhaps this company can help?

Temporary/portable site welfare accessories for hire- Elliott

The customizable entry steps they show, with some shims look pretty darn close to me
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Mack,

I believe these are the ones I saw. 8" deep and radius. Maybe an option for you. They also offer a 10" deep one if it will fit the camper. Have to verify the 8 inch will fit too.

These are cheaper then I thought. I need to investigate this more. Now to work on the hand rails.

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Being a Stromberg Carlson product, it should be a good quality step, but as John said, it sure looks like it wouldn't work well on uneven ground and would need leveling.

Regarding new fold-out steps though, be cautious. I think the Sunline steps are really good, especially considering they are Lippert. My parents just replaced the steps on their fifth wheel because they were awful. They were the curved fronts, but they were constructed so poorly that they had a lot of flex in them. My dad and I aren't small people, so every time one of us would walk in/out, the step would flex a lot and rock the whole trailer. The steps on that are mounted to a slide-out platform/porch, so that just extended the lever more. The new ones aren't Lippert steps and aren't quite as sturdy, but they are very close. I forget if the new ones are curved or not, but most step manufacturers have that option now.
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I am constructing wooding steps for Amylynn. Not foldinging by any means. I will store them in the bed of the pickup while on the go
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Stromberg Carlson SM-24-40

24" Wide
8" deep tread
7.5" riser (this is what I need vs standard at over 9")
38" long when extended
750 lb. capacity

$295 w/free shipping @ etrailer.com

Essentially the same size as our 3 step, only with 4 steps, so the lower rise. I don't need them to be any closer to the ground, Carol needs the lower rise, since she can't flex her foot down when coming down the steps.

I may be making this mod when I can scrape together the $$$




Elkhart Industries also now makes a Quadra Stair however the top step rise is almost 9 inches so it kind of defeats the purpose. The length is 43" so they extend further away from then trailer.

Hickory Springs also has just introduced Positrac Quad steps, but there isn't a lot of info available on them.

Lippert evidently also has a four step now, but evidently the first version was pulled due to failures. However, I couldn't find anything recent.

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Mack, WOW good find. I have not looked since we last talked on this. And curved steps too. Thanks for posting.
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My daughter lived in a mobile home for awhile and had a set of steps like in post#1. Very unstable on uneven ground. Had to level ground under each ground contact leg. Seems like a hassle unless your staying in one spot for a while,
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I think the industry may have heard us!!!!!

Stromberg Carlson SM-24-40

24" Wide
8" deep tread
7.5" riser (this is what I need vs standard at over 9")
38" long when extended
750 lb. capacity

$295 w/free shipping @ etrailer.com

Essentially the same size as our 3 step, only with 4 steps, so the lower rise. I don't need them to be any closer to the ground, Carol needs the lower rise, since she can't flex her foot down when coming down the steps.

I may be making this mod when I can scrape together the $$$




Elkhart Industries also now makes a Quadra Stair however the top step rise is almost 9 inches so it kind of defeats the purpose. The length is 43" so they extend further away from then trailer.

Hickory Springs also has just introduced Positrac Quad steps, but there isn't a lot of info available on them.

Lippert evidently also has a four step now, but evidently the first version was pulled due to failures. However, I couldn't find anything recent.

Mack
Very nice find. I could certainly use these steps, especially since we did the axle flip on our 5'ver. Thanks for posting. I can see this mod in our future.
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