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Old 03-14-2008, 08:06 AM   #1
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$4.15 for diesel?

I'm just curious what you are all paying for diesel. Regular gas was $3.15 last night when we filled up and diesel was a dollar more! Diesel has been about 50 cents more in the past. What's up with this? And what are you all seeing in your states?
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Up here in Old Forge = regular gas is at $3.49 and diesel is at $4.19......
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As of this writing, Fly J on I-81 VA exit 323 (the VA.WV state line) where I get my fuel, diesel is 3.859, gas $3.139. I currently have a full tank (26 gal) but will need to top off next friday and also fill my (3) 5 gal. diesel cans

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Up here in Old Forge = regular gas is at $3.49 and diesel is at $4.19......
'Bout the same here in the Rochester area as of yesterday.

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I was feeling lazy when I passed the Flying J on Monday. I had just stopped at Camping World and didn't feel like stopping at that point. Plus I wanted a read on my mileage that was total highway miles. The good news is that I got 21 mpg. Now I'm kicking myself though. I think diesel was still $3.69 cash at that point. Oh well. Does anyone know why diesel is so much higher than gas? Is it the process to make it ultra low sulfer making it so expensive?
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Right around $4 in Baltimore/Annapolis Area, cheapest I've seen was $3.895. We don't use our 2500 for much other than pulling the trailer. The last fill-up was at $3.359, it's going to hurt this weekend
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... Does anyone know why diesel is so much higher than gas? ...
Could it be due to the switch over from winter blend to summer blend?
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I read today the the price if gasoline and diesel is just now catching up to the crude barrel price. They said the retail prices were stagnant during the crude run up by jittery wall street traders.

Have no clue as to why diesel is more that gas, seems to me there is more cost to refine gasoline then there is for diesel??? I too would love to know the answer to that one. Seems like a run up with diesel would fuel (excuse the punn) inflation greater than gas as it effects prices across the board due to excess delivery charges. Is this intentional???

When we get our big stimulas checks we are going to apply it to our excess fuel bills and feed other economies. So much for stimulating our economy!!

Almost forgot, Jersey side of river is 3.03 reg and 4.19 diesel, PA side is 3.28 reg and 4.28 diesel.

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Diesel Fuel Price

Here in San Dimas, CA, which is about 30 miles east of L.A., the price of diesel is 4.39 per gallon. That is the cheapest I've seen around here. It is more expensive in the San Francisco Bay area as is everything else.
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Here in my area its running between $4.25 to $4.29.
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When I left work tonight diesel was up to $4.29 gallon 10 cents in one day~BIG JUMP!!!!!

I didn't check regular price but I have to fill up in the morning!
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I've talked to various people in the oil industry and there is a simple answer: demand. The supply, in essence, is fixed. They can only get so much diesel fuel out of a barrel of crude, period. Gas production has increased by using a process that "cracks" oil to give a higher volume of gasoline, albeit at a lower quality. Can't be done for diesel.

So, EVERY house that gets built that uses fuel oil and EVERY new vehicle that uses diesel fuel is using a fuel that is quite finite in production. The price will continue to rise and will not go down.

Fortunately, for gasoline users, when the first of 4 new Ethanol plants goes online this Fall and makes almost unlimited Ethanol from crop waste and "garbage", there will be relief to gasoline prices.

At the truck dealership at which I work, more and more people are asking for gas engines instead of diesel. I completely sympathize.
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Just paid $4.43 per gallon for deisel just this past Tuesday for the work truck. I think I'll keep my smaller gas motor in my pickup and stay with the mileage. Just can't go anyplace where there are large hills. I have decided to sink a little money into what I have with some suspension work and a full tune up than buy a larger TV. I just can't see spending $35,000 on a new TV, especially with a "recession" looming over our heads.

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Old 03-14-2008, 09:42 PM   #14
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Gas: 87 Octane, $3.45/gal

Diesel: $4.15/gal

Source, Marathon station right off the Interstate on the way home from work. Price effective as of 9:35PM 3-14-08. Guaranteed to change. Just wait...

Come on over and fill up. We can go camping then too

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My wife accuses me of being a conspiracy freak but check this out. I get ~14 MPG in my Ford gas truck. At $3.15/gal, it rounds up to approximately $0.23/mile driven. Pam says she is getting 21 MPG in her diesel Chevrolet truck. At $4.15/gal, it rounds up to approximately $0.20/mile driven. By diesel being at that price, it kind of levels the playing field between the cost of owning a diesel compared to gasoline. Diesel is only saving $0.03/mile or $3.00 per 100 miles.
This kinda confuses me since diesel is one of the last fractions to come off the distillation. It has a large mixture of medium to long chain carbon molecules and there should be a lot more diesel produced than gasoline. The distillation process pulls off Pentane & Hexanes first since these are the smallest. Heptane, Octane and maybe Nonane is gasoline which comes off next. #1 & #2 fuel oils are next which contain kerosine, heating oil and diesel. Fuel oils keep getting thicker until you reach #6 Bunker fuel which needs heated to 160 degrees just to punp it to the boilers. After the fuel oils, you get asphalts and paraffins.
Sorry............got carried away. What I'm trying to say is there should be a lot more diesel produced than gasoline. I don't understand why it would cost more. BTW........the above paragraph is VERY abreviated and contains a lot more steps than I wrote. Okay...................I'll go to bed now and shut up..............Marshall
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Ok Marshall, you wouldn't happen to have a Chemistry type background would you? You can’t hide behind a keyboard…..

The next compassion is to do towing mileage of gas verse diesel. And this ranges all over pending engine size, TT size, weight and speed towed.

I went thru this last fall before I picked up my V10 with a severe drinking problem…. However I do get better towing mileage with the F350 pulling the T310SR then I did with the Suburban pulling the T2499. Not a lot, but it do not get worse. However empty, the Suburban beats out the F350. I guess the key is, we just have to go camping all the time….

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In Dillsburg, PA (yesterday afternoon) diesel was $4.31 a gallon. I fill my work truck almost every day. It's been jumping by leaps and bounds. Last Friday I filled my work truck at the same station for $4.19. Just down the road the other station was still at $3.86, so I rushed home picked up the hauler and ran to town. I filled it at the $3.86 station for the cost of $105. Thank goodness we just got a third vehicle, now the diesel beast can sit in the driveway for the most part.
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Well when I went to work this am the Valero on my corner was $4.25. In town Sunoco was $4.33, and when I came home Valero was at $4.29 for diesel.
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I really, really wanted a diesel in my next truck until this runup. I think I'll aim for the 6.0L gas GM instead.

I will stick with my little wee-05 (305 ) for now, and just go slow up the big hills (that's what they make four-way flashers for, right?) and save for a Superchips or Hypertech power tuner. They cover from 1998 (mine) through present with their new programmers, and since I (for now) plan to stick with GMs....as long as I can return one to stock and then use it on another vehicle, I should be good.

It's killing my company (along with a lot of others) that it won't stay put for a week.... I think our diesel ran ~$4.80 last week (delivered and pumped by a contractor). It averages out to $1 per mile when you factor in refrigerator unit fuel.
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Cindy and I are lovin the fact that we just topped off our tank here in Mexico and it only cost $38!!!! YEAH BABY!

I love that fact that Diesel in Baja is only $2 a gallon! Way better than the $4.05 per gallon in California just before we crossed the Border

We're just trying to figure out how to bring a few barrels home with us!

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